Non resident hunting advice

[Kydeerslayer64]

Like I said before I only have one out west hunt under my belt but typically the elk move to the lower elevations depending on the weather (later seasons - more snow = not as much food to recover from the rut). Bulls are said to stay a little higher than cows but I'm sure that depends on the food that is available at that particular time of year. Also in some places the lower elevation areas are usually on private land and the elk know this to due to lower hunting pressure, more access to food, etc. It also depends on what time of the year you are going. Earlier in the year, more forage/higher elevation, bulls are more interested in cows, etc. Later in the year, move to lower elevations depending on the weather, post rut bulls are trying to recover (need food, water and shelter) leading to the bulls going into what Big Fin would call sanctuaries to get away from pressure, etc. Meaning steep nasty away from where most hunters don't want to go. This is all from what I've gathered in trying to educate myself as best as I can with the little amount of time I have out west.

Thanks for replying

 

[Kydeerslayer64]

I’m curious with a brother in Bozeman what his success rate on elk is? It may be worth opting out of the draw this year picking a point up later an coming out and spending a week in camp with him an see what this is all about before diving in

He moved to Montana to get away from the typical state BS. He has hunted mainly in Michigan where it’s more about coming back to camp to a cold beer and some food that is bad for you than killing a deer. He’s interested in hunting in Montana but has not done it yet.

 

[8andcounting]

He moved to Montana to get away from the typical state BS. He has hunted mainly in Michigan where it’s more about coming back to camp to a cold beer and some food that is bad for you than killing a deer. He’s interested in hunting in Montana but has not done it yet.

PM’d you .

 

[cgasner1]

He moved to Montana to get away from the typical state BS. He has hunted mainly in Michigan where it’s more about coming back to camp to a cold beer and some food that is bad for you than killing a deer. He’s interested in hunting in Montana but has not done it yet.

What’s gonna be your preferred method?

 

[Kydeerslayer64]

What’s gonna be your preferred method?

That’s what I’m trying to figure out. I don’t have the luxury of scouting areas prior or adjusting my hunting dates on the fly because of different weather patterns. I have to commit to a date early and most likely Thanksgiving week.
A lot also depends if I’m drawn for a permit area as well which is unlikely but not impossible. I have ruled out a guided Elk Bull hunt this year and still figuring out the rest. I haven’t ruled out a total pass either yet and just calling the money spent on points a Montana donation. Honestly 65/35 on hunting right now

 

[Gerald Martin]

Nope.

Care to provide the legal proscription that doesn’t allow landowners to outfit on their deeded property without an outfitter license?

Private property owners can accompany hunters (guide/outfit) on their deeded land without holding an outfitter’s license.

 

[Kydeerslayer64]

Care to provide the legal proscription that doesn’t allow landowners to outfit on their deeded property without an outfitter license?

Private property owners can accompany hunters (guide/outfit) on their deeded land without holding an outfitter’s license.

Ok, thanks and that’s very interesting. Do you recommend anyone specifically?

 

[Forkyfinder]

Care to provide the legal proscription that doesn’t allow landowners to outfit on their deeded property without an outfitter license?

Nope.

Doesnt make you right though. I just dont care to try to prove anything to someone im not convinced is capable of understanding.

P.s. laws permit who can - not who cant do something.

 

[cgasner1]

That’s what I’m trying to figure out. I don’t have the luxury of scouting areas prior or adjusting my hunting dates on the fly because of different weather patterns. I have to commit to a date early and most likely Thanksgiving week.
A lot also depends if I’m drawn for a permit area as well which is unlikely but not impossible. I have ruled out a guided Elk Bull hunt this year and still figuring out the rest. I haven’t ruled out a total pass either yet and just calling the money spent on points a Montana donation. Honestly 65/35 on hunting right now

Sounds to me like a great reason to go visit your brother for thanksgiving and do some scouting. If you look at the odds on most nr le tags with your points the money this year may be better spent on raffle tickets

 

[Kydeerslayer64]

Nope.

Doesnt make you right though. I just dont care to try to prove anything to someone im not convinced is capable of understanding.

P.s. laws permit who can - not who cant do something.

Thanks, I think…not sure exactly what you are referring too or if it was something I said, but regardless, thanks for replying

 

[Kydeerslayer64]

Sounds to me like a great reason to go visit your brother for thanksgiving and do some scouting. If you look at the odds on most nr le tags with your points the money this year may be better spent on raffle tickets

I realize that as the odds on landing a KY tag is about 40000 to 1. However having 2 preference points does give me about an 80% chance of drawing for a general license and that’s what I’m trying to figure out what I would do if I got drawn.
Thanks so much for your reply as well!

 

[Kydeerslayer64]

I realize that as the odds on landing a KY tag is about 40000 to 1. However having 2 preference points does give me about an 80% chance of drawing for a general license and that’s what I’m trying to figure out what I would do if I got drawn.
Thanks so much for your reply as well!

And I would be perfectly okay just sitting and glassing for days and not seeing anything as it’s as much about being in the hunt and just gaining some experience and knowledge for the next time.