New bill about blinds near troughs

[Firedude]

House bill 677 appears to make it illegal to place a blind near water troughs on public property. This would kill archery antelope hunting. I've called Jerald to get some reason why he proposed this. I'll update if he calls back.

 

[Firedude]

Well that was fast. I guess they had hundreds of phone calls opposing it in hours.

 

[TheTone]

Well that was fast. I guess they had hundreds of phone calls opposing it in hours. View attachment 401918

So who was the interested party that got him to introduce it in the first place place?

 

[Elkmagnet]

So who was the interested party that got him to introduce it in the first place place?

You can bet they are going to try and ram it through when nobody is looking.

 

[warmer]

So who was the interested party that got him to introduce it in the first place place?

It's politics, you'll probably never find out

 

[sclancy27]

I don't think it would "kill" archery antelope hunting. It would make it alot harder tho.

 

[TheTone]

It's politics, you'll probably never find out

It was ranchers that claim hunters are disrupting livestock using water on public land. Of course hunters will not remember these types of things come election season

 

[44hunter45]

So delimbing for a climbing tree stand is already a no-no?

I better scrub my social media pics.

 

[kwyeewyk]

So delimbing for a climbing tree stand is already a no-no?

I better scrub my social media pics.

I think that part is underlined so it's part of the new proposal, not currently in effect?

 

[44hunter45]

I think that part is underlined so it's part of the new proposal, not currently in effect?

Also strike-through on the original text.

 

[brocksw]

So who was the interested party that got him to introduce it in the first place place?

Farm Bureau.

We were monitoring this issue pretty close behind closed doors.

 

[Blue Steel]

I think that part is underlined so it's part of the new proposal, not currently in effect?

Seems they just moved it from (iii) ("trees are cut or altered"), to a subsection to make more clear. I think it's been that way for a long time -- that you can't cut or alter trees around the blind, or where you want to put one.

 

[kwyeewyk]

Seems they just moved it from (iii) ("trees are cut or altered"), to a subsection to make more clear. I think it's been that way for a long time -- that you can't cut or alter trees around the blind, or where you want to put one.

Also strike-through on the original text.

Ah yes see that now. The word "construct" doesn't seem like the best choice of words, could almost be interpreted as prefabricated hanging stands might not apply, they could have said "construct or place" and it would be more clear.

 

[Elktrack]

Gonna piss people off but it’s our own fault this is happening.

If “we” didn’t make a mess of the area and practiced Leave no Trace type principles when building blinds, I don’t think it would be an issue at all.
Hacking up vegetation around the troughs to brush in blinds and leaving wire, rope, trash, etc just gives the whole thing a black eye.

 

[2rocky]

To my memory, a portable blind was ok for less than so many days...but building a blind out of brush was not ok according to CA DFW and BLM.
My friends who ranch in the north Nevada Desert are pretty PO'ed at antelope hunters leaving gates open and CAMPING on waterholes.

Guzzlers are even more restrictive...


In Nevada, it is legal to hunt near wildlife guzzlers, but you cannot stay, park vehicles, or set up blinds/chairs within the immediate vicinity for more than 30 minutes to ensure animals can access the water, according to Western Outdoor News. Vehicles must be parked at least 200 yards away if left for longer.

Key Guzzler Rules and Information:

• Hunting Restrictions: While you can hunt in the area, you cannot set up camp, chairs, or blinds directly on or immediately beside a guzzler apron.
• Time Limits: You must not loiter at a guzzler for more than 30 minutes.
• Parking: Vehicles must be parked at least 200 yards away from a guzzler if you plan to be in the area for an extended period.
• Purpose: These structures, often maintained by the Nevada Department of Wildlife (NDOW), are designed to provide critical water for wildlife in arid regions.
• Volunteering: Participants in NDOW-led helicopter construction projects must be at least 16 years old.
• Protection: NDOW may perform emergency water hauls to these sites during droughts.
  Nevada Department of Wildlife +4

 

[Firedude]

I don't think it would "kill" archery antelope hunting. It would make it alot harder tho.

It would in 2 of the areas I hunt Antelope. It's so dry every single spring is tapped for troughs or made into a pond. Which is fine. Instead of a mud hole it's better for wildlife to use. But blocking it off to hunters would kill hunting those areas. Cattle troughs are not only better for cattle. They help keep cows from tromping those areas into unusable mud.

 

[sclancy27]

It would in 2 of the areas I hunt Antelope. It's so dry every single spring is tapped for troughs or made into a pond. Which is fine. Instead of a mud hole it's better for wildlife to use. But blocking it off to hunters would kill hunting those areas. Cattle troughs are not only better for cattle. They help keep cows from tromping those areas into unusable mud.

It wouldn't kill the hunting. It would definitely decrease the success rate. It would be a lot tougher to harvest an antelope with a bow which is how it should be.

 

[Firedude]

It wouldn't kill the hunting. It would definitely decrease the success rate. It would be a lot tougher to harvest an antelope with a bow which is how it should be.

"How it should be" explain that perspective to me. Don't take that offensively I'm curious about that perspective.