Irrelevant
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It wasn't meant to be an absolute... But Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana all grew more than Texas and they clearly have some great habitat
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WyoCoalMiner
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Isn't the lack of popularity due to it being less profitable for the provider than private insurance?
BigHornRam
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Bama is on the increase as well.
SAJ-99
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I left for reasons to start a family. Many the same reason people move out of the city and into suburbs every day, I just made a larger jump, LOL. Some days I regret doing it, some days I don't. I have heard of the death of Chicago, New York, every city in California for my entire adult life. It's all nonsense. It is people imparting their personal views on an entire region, which I get because I don't think I could live in California either because I hate the traffic. Regardless, Urban centers still drive this nation. Those areas that actually can grow are in other states. Large cities on East coast and Chicago would need to stack people on top of people. Boise, ID? Denver, CO? Charlston, SC? Probably more open space there.
Still would place it mostly on weather and boomers going south and west. Despite some of the areas the show inflows, they saw declines in home prices. Places like Austin, Tampa, Miami, Phoenix. I'm not sure how to reconcile the two.
Irrelevant
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Yes and no. WA doesn't have an income tax, but we vote blue. I know several people that want to move to Idaho because of politics, but Idaho has a pretty high income tax... It doesn't make financial sense. It's strictly tribal
Nick87
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Hence the often. Im not speaking in absolute either. Wyoming is on the opposite end of the spectrum for me as far as taxes. Thats not near as appealing to me as the outdoor opportunities would be.
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Hilton Head along with all the GA/SC sea islands were incredible 30-40 years ago. They were a little known hunter and fisherman paradise. It is terribly sad what has happened.
BigHornRam
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Every state in the rockies are gaining, except Colorado. Explain that.
Nameless Range
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I think as @Irrelevant states, it's a lot of things.
I live in a subdivision that was designed to be semi-well-to-do, but the developer went bankrupt executing it in 2009 when that economic downturn occured. Lucky for my wife and I, we swooped in at the lowest prices, and for the last 4 years lots in this subdivision are selling for more than I built my house for (~$200K). The majority of my neighbors are a specific demographic, but I'd say half moved here in the last 10 years, and anecdotally they basically all did so because they felt the places they lived had gone to shit (Washington, California, Oregon). They don't talk about taxes, though they do allude to politics, and I have a mild concern that theirs are oversimplified relative to the Montana I grew up in, and are largely prescribed the internet. The number one theme I hear though, is that this is a far better place to raise their kids than where they came from. I would agree.
As an aside, between 1980 and 2025, Montana was the only U.S. state where the native-born population growth outpaced foreign-born growth. I thought that was an interesting statistic - and is more a function of circumstances combined, and not with anything moral.
I think what we see in the OP's map is the United States as a city with neighborhoods, and on the ever-changing bell curve of American preference, some neighborhoods are more desirable than others. Some are better for work, some are better for play, and some are where the cool people go. It's just a personal opinion, but the place I grew up was so much better when it was unpopular, though I acknowledge a good-old-days bias for most people in most places.
I live in a subdivision that was designed to be semi-well-to-do, but the developer went bankrupt executing it in 2009 when that economic downturn occured. Lucky for my wife and I, we swooped in at the lowest prices, and for the last 4 years lots in this subdivision are selling for more than I built my house for (~$200K). The majority of my neighbors are a specific demographic, but I'd say half moved here in the last 10 years, and anecdotally they basically all did so because they felt the places they lived had gone to shit (Washington, California, Oregon). They don't talk about taxes, though they do allude to politics, and I have a mild concern that theirs are oversimplified relative to the Montana I grew up in, and are largely prescribed the internet. The number one theme I hear though, is that this is a far better place to raise their kids than where they came from. I would agree.
As an aside, between 1980 and 2025, Montana was the only U.S. state where the native-born population growth outpaced foreign-born growth. I thought that was an interesting statistic - and is more a function of circumstances combined, and not with anything moral.
I think what we see in the OP's map is the United States as a city with neighborhoods, and on the ever-changing bell curve of American preference, some neighborhoods are more desirable than others. Some are better for work, some are better for play, and some are where the cool people go. It's just a personal opinion, but the place I grew up was so much better when it was unpopular, though I acknowledge a good-old-days bias for most people in most places.
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SAJ-99
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Demographics.
WildWill
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Then they are bad at their jobs or being very hyperbolic. Medicaid is worse then Medicare to deal with and we'd all prefer to milk that private tit. But losing money on Medicare should be the exception not the rule.
Health insurance profitability should be its own thread. It’s a deep topic that will turn political like everything else right now.
