Montana 2025 Legislative Session

[Carnage2011]

So you want to bolster their future lawsuits from people like UPOM?

Providing "lattitude" for the department to issue more tags where "over objective" is compulsion to do so, legally speaking, if the deparment must do "all it can" to manage for those population objectives.

There are public land elk, private land elk, and elk that utilize anything in between. Unlimited private land tags in the wrong district, where a lot of elk are both, is bad news for public land elk.

You have mastered the art of mental gymnastics. I appreciate how passionate you are about a lot of the topics, but you have no interest in other ideas. I’ve hunted a shit load of this state and killed mature bulls in a bunch of different units.I understand the dynamics of private/public and the crossover of the two. I’m not interested in arguing with you because no one has changed your mind about anything on here during this legislative session.

 

[cgasner1]

You have mastered the art of mental gymnastics. I appreciate how passionate you are about a lot of the topics, but you have no interest in other ideas. I’ve hunted a shit load of this state and killed mature bulls in a bunch of different units.I understand the dynamics of private/public and the crossover of the two. I’m not interested in arguing with you because no one has changed your mind about anything on here during this legislative session.

I feel like when these matter get brought up everyone acts like a cow elk is a participation trophy. Everyone should get to shoot one off a ranch and if we can stop people from shooting more then more people will get to shoot them. This isn’t just a Montana problem and it’s a complex problem not sure what the right answer would be.

 

[Forkyfinder]

You have mastered the art of mental gymnastics. I appreciate how passionate you are about a lot of the topics, but you have no interest in other ideas. I’ve hunted a shit load of this state and killed mature bulls in a bunch of different units.I understand the dynamics of private/public and the crossover of the two. I’m not interested in arguing with you because no one has changed your mind about anything on here during this legislative session.

There are a few R2, R3, and R4 that are over objective. Would you want 4 b tags, or more, for private land there?

635 and 270 im pretty against, youre correct. But you are incorrect that im incapable of changing my mind.

Full disclosure. If i was king for a day id chop the state in 3rds. East. West. And central. And for the most part id operate them completely different. In the east 1/3rd id get wild and have transferable land owner tags and unlimited cow elk tags in a shitload of units.But whenever stuff like this comes up its easy for me to want to see the areas where it is a bad idea first instead of the areas where it will be a good plan.

 

[cgasner1]

There are a few R2, R3, and R4 that are over objective. Would you want 4 b tags, or more, for private land there?

635 and 270 im pretty against, youre correct. But you are incorrect that im incapable of changing my mind.

Full disclosure. If i was king for a day id chop the state in 3rds. East. West. And central. And for the most part id operate them completely different. In the east 1/3rd id get wild and have transferable land owner tags and unlimited cow elk tags in a shitload of units.But whenever stuff like this comes up its easy for me to want to see the areas where it is a bad idea first instead of the areas where it will be a good plan.

What a silly idea everyone knows it should be north central and south

 

[8andcounting]

No. Not at all. What im saying - they (fwp) could have isssued "4,797,739,271" private land only, or valid anywhere, unlimited to individuals and theyd have still been over "objective" in that unit anyway.

Ok my bad .

 

[Elky Welky]

Very happy to inform everyone that the legislative session has come to a close, both houses moved to sine die. All that is left is signatures from the governor.

More to come, but I am elated to report that Montana BHA's priority bills HB 283 and HB 763 both made it through and are on their way to the governor's desk. For a refresher on what these bills will do: HB 283 allows for the moose and sheep tags to be raffled or auctioned so conservation orgs can raise more money for those species (as we did last year with mule deer https://billingsgazette.com/outdoor...cle_db46973f-cbd0-5a45-a64e-b4497b9e5fdb.html). HB 763 provides another tool for a landowner to allow access to public land specifically during the hunting season under the Block Mgmt Program. https://www.backcountryhunters.org/montana_hb_763_accessing_public_lands_through_block_management

A huge thanks is in order to Reps. Tyson Running Wolf and Joshua Seckinger for carrying these bills, and for the support we received from hunt talk members @Eric Albus (a cosponsor on HB 763), and @Ben Lamb.

Furthermore, both SB 537 and HB 932, which compete but both do great for conservation funding, are on their way to the governor's desk.

I'm really proud of the work our policy team did this year, this was our most successful session, and we were largely able to stay out of the fray and keep our focus on the bills that will make the biggest difference for our public lands and wildlife.

I'm gonna go try and kill a turkey this weekend now.

 

[Schaaf]

Hallelujah