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Israel attacks Iran’s nuclear facilities

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I think we have opened a Pandora's box. Certainly Iran can't win a conventional war against the United States.

They can however cause more mischief than is their usual practice. It would shock me if they do nothing in the coming months.

If they weren't building a nuke presently, this gives them a reason to reconsider. If they were building one...I doubt it stops their desire for one.

It is so much easier to step into a trap, than to pull free from one. I hope we have a toe stuck, and not the entire foot.
 
elkduds said:
Eyes on the prize, for me. I'll remain focused oh defeating public land sales, then attend to the rest of this firehose. Timing of this military escalation simultaneous to mounting opposition to the Big Buttful Bill is no accident.
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You need to relax on the trump hate a bit. If you think Trump woke up yesterday and thought “man, the BBB has mounting pressure against it, maybe I should drop bombs on Iran” then you are absolutely lost. Your passion for public lands is great and many people on HT share that, but your hate for anything Trump does is insane.
 
El Jason said:
So voters should not have and voice opinions as to what they’d like to see for foreign policy and US involvement in foreign affairs? Just trust the elected officials?
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If it makes you feel better, sure. But there was a vote. Or are you wanting a vote on every little thing?

I think @SFC B put it well. Most civilians can’t handle knowing what the military does. I’d have to say I think most civilians live in a cotton candy based fairy tale land where everyone gets along with strongly-worded responses and no real repercussions. It’s so out of touch it’s laughable on a real-world global military scale.
 
thomas89 said:
If it makes you feel better, sure. But there was a vote. Or are you wanting a vote on every little thing?
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I mean, I guess I thought this was America, where we could voice our thoughts and opinions to our electorate through the course of their term. If that is a vote on every little thing, then I guess that’s a yes?

No cotton candy land here.

Thank you for your service.
 
Anybody see Israel's honeypot, er, I mean the Epstein list yet? Did the bbb pass yet? Tariffs replace income tax yet?

Anybody think those sand people won't dig another hole just because we bombed one?

All I know is Israel didn't have to pay for those bunker busters. We're on the hook again.
 
howl said:
Anybody see Israel's honeypot, er, I mean the Epstein list yet? Did the bbb pass yet? Tariffs replace income tax yet?

Anybody think those sand people won't dig another hole just because we bombed one?

All I know is Israel didn't have to pay for those bunker busters. We're on the hook again.
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Small price to pay for national security. They've threatened the US many times. They aren't utilizing nuclear for "personal use". I bet they'd launch a nuke at the US first chance they get if they made one.
 
rjthehunter said:
Small price to pay for national security. They've threatened the US many times. They aren't utilizing nuclear for "personal use". I bet they'd launch a nuke at the US first chance they get if they made one.
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They've been about to, for too long to expect them ever. Too much marrying of cousins!

But, really, what is this small price you're talking about like you're paying it yourself? Just pocket change for you, huh? Get your hand out of my pocket!

I'm fine with discussing philosophical points. You stealing my children's college fund to soothe your nerves isn't any kind of polite. It's telling people who should be friends to go blank themselves because you ally with the force of government over your countrymen.
 
rjthehunter said:
Small price to pay for national security. They've threatened the US many times. They aren't utilizing nuclear for "personal use". I bet they'd launch a nuke at the US first chance they get if they made one.
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While Israel has much to fear if Iran gets a Nuke, Iran does not have a missile capable of reaching the US.

It would be the end of Iran, if they ever sent a nuke, our way. For all of their bluster, they are smart enough to know that.
 
I still don’t understand how Israel had a decade old plan to take out Iran’s nuke capability and leadership but the plan only scratched the surface of the facilities. Israel knew the depth of the facilities. Israel didn’t have a phase two to its nuke facility attack plan?
 
rjthehunter said:
Small price to pay for national security. They've threatened the US many times. They aren't utilizing nuclear for "personal use". I bet they'd launch a nuke at the US first chance they get if they made one.
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Perhaps. If i was them - id want one, maybe even more now.

Nuclear armed countries dont get conversations about regime change, foreign occupation, and the US engaging in a war theyre not directly part of or threatened by.

Mutually assured destruction has basically meant peace with america. See n korea, russia, and others.

Theres not much for solutions - but i wish there'd have been an attempted public negotation. Itd sure have been better optics.

All that said - i still have more confidence in the current regime to address it than i do the previous regime.
 
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