‘I Didn’t Vote for This’: A Revolt Against DOGE Cuts, Deep in Trump Country

[brymoore]

Someday I hope the choices for POTUS will be better. It seems to get exponentially worse every time.

Yep. I’ve felt my vote has been worthless for a few years except for school bonds. I don’t support either party at this point.

 

[SAJ-99]

Today is the anniversary of the publishing of Thomas Paine's "The American Crisis". Reading it might give people a refreshed perspective on why this experiment started. This system has its flaws, but I would rather 100% be a little unhappy about various things than 50% relish in screwing the other 50%.

The American Crisis | Thomas Paine | American Independence | Common Sense | Bill of Rights Institute

Thomas Paine began this series of 16 essays in 1776 when he was serving in the Continental Army. The essays bolstered the morale of American troops in their fight with the British. General George Washington had the Crisis essays read to the troops at Valley Forge. They also strengthened...

billofrightsinstitute.org

 

[elkduds]

Someday I hope the choices for POTUS will be better. It seems to get exponentially worse every time.

Which is exactly why founders empowered Congress and SCOTUS to check and balance the Executive branch and each other. Anyone here old enough to remember those days?

 

[Big Sky Guy]

Someday I hope the choices for POTUS will be better. It seems to get exponentially worse every time.

Growing up I always viewed the Presidential election as choosing between 1st and 2nd. Took me into my late 20's to realize it's actually choosing 9th and 10th place with no choice given for the other 8. Now I'm thinking it's more like 99 and 100. Very frustrating. Where are the George Washingtons and great men of our day? As mentioned earlier I've never gotten an opportunity to vote for a candidate I would consider "great," despite MAGA's best efforts to tell me otherwise.

 

[SAJ-99]

Where are the George Washingtons and great men of our day?

Can you imagine what social media would do to George Washington today given he had so little political acumen? Guy wouldn't have a chance on the Insta.

 

[noharleyyet]

Better get ready for Benjamin's hundy pic to be supplanted...

 

[44hunter45]

Better get ready for Benjamin's hundy pic to be supplanted...

You just reminded me. I need to cash in all those post 1983 pennies.

 

[noharleyyet]

You just reminded me. I need to cash in all those post 1983 pennies.

Roundin' up roundup at the coffeeshop 44/45.

 

[Irrelevant]

Growing up I always viewed the Presidential election as choosing between 1st and 2nd. Took me into my late 20's to realize it's actually choosing 9th and 10th place with no choice given for the other 8. Now I'm thinking it's more like 99 and 100. Very frustrating. Where are the George Washingtons and great men of our day? As mentioned earlier I've never gotten an opportunity to vote for a candidate I would consider "great," despite MAGA's best efforts to tell me otherwise.

Look at what we do to every person in the running. We (the viewer-driven media) dig as deep as we can to vilify them as the ultimate idiot and enemy. I was absolutely convinced GW was a terrible human and a worse president. He damn sure wasn't either. What decent human would want that when you could go work in one of dozens of other fields and live an immensely more enjoyable life

 

[TX Trophy Hunter]

I was disappointed when McCain lost in 08. Now I miss Obama.

 

[whatnot]

Do you have a source/proof of that claim?

1. They usually have zero relevance to a public land hunting forum.
2. They are usually started by the same small group of people.
3. The pot gets stirred by the same small group of people.
4. Some only want to start/interact on threads that are politically oriented with no relevance to politics that impact public land hunting. Obviously, they should be on a different site.
5. Some struggle to have a conversation with those who have a differing opinion, thus the person results to tags, labels, and false comparatives, in all reality, raising the surrender flag to rationale discourse. Those people are of the greatest likelihood to be those in #4 above.

 

[Hem]

Anybody vote for Ross Perot back in the day! I did out of protest.

 

[BuzzH]

i remember "venturing " into politics when BHA signed onto and pushed development of hundreds of thousands of acres for "renewable energy". Only to get slammed for the "no poltics"
illusion that is here.

Dems were only good on public land because they hadnt found their financial resson to sell it off. Windmills and solar are that, and it was crickets in here.

Ive yet to pass through a project 2025 pubkic land loss, but you cant swing a dead cat and nit hit a windmill.

Tons of wind and solar on private around my part of the world.

You counting those in your dead cat swinging? Or just wrongly assuming wind and solar is limited to public land?

 

[mtmiller]

Tons of wind and solar on private around my part of the world.

You counting those in your dead cat swinging? Or just wrongly assuming wind and solar is limited to public land?

Same. Much of it in cultivated fields (wind). My thought, if you are looking for a good place to put them, this would be it.

 

[Bonasababy]

I was disappointed when McCain lost in 08. Now I miss Obama.

Taking on Palin was a big mistake.

 

[Bonasababy]

Anybody vote for Ross Perot back in the day! I did out of protest.

Jesse the Body for governor for me. Had to be around in that time to understand. He actually had real potential and had some great moderates working for him, just couldn't keep from putting his foot in his mouth.

 

[Big Fin]

1. They usually have zero relevance to a public land hunting forum.
2. They are usually started by the same small group of people.
3. The pot gets stirred by the same small group of people.
4. Some only want to start/interact on threads that are politically oriented with no relevance to politics that impact public land hunting. Obviously, they should be on a different site.
5. Some struggle to have a conversation with those who have a differing opinion, thus the person results to tags, labels, and false comparatives, in all reality, raising the surrender flag to rationale discourse. Those people are of the greatest likelihood to be those in #4 above.

And given the article that is the focus of this thread has a lot of relevance to public land hunting, it is a thread that is going to stay here.

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

Anybody vote for Ross Perot back in the day! I did out of protest.

Have an older friend. Who voted for Perot out of protest and he hasn't voted since.

 

[Bonasababy]

Same. Much of it in cultivated fields (wind). My thought, if you are looking for a good place to put them, this would be it.

Agree folks hate that though, which creates pressure to put them on less productive lands...which can create habitat loss concerns.

Its an age old thing...its not the tech, its where it is sited.

 

[mtmiller]

Agree folks hate that though, which creates pressure to put them on less productive lands...which can create habitat loss concerns.

Its an age old thing...its not the tech, its where it is sited.

You will have to type slower for me.

What folks hate them? I assume you are referring to environmental folks and not the landowners that are the decision maker on their own property. I looked into landowner compensation and it looks like $8-16k per year per turbine based on MW produced. I don't know if that is a lot or not, but the landowner gets to make that decision. Seems like a fair offset for surface disturbance.


I always felt bad for the landowner in split estate instances where the energy developer made the decisions where fluid mineral surface disturbances would be on private land. That being said, it made my NEPA analysis very easy.

If anyone is bored today, zoom into more detail in this area, approximately 7 miles west of the previous map. Pretty good example of fluid mineral development on native habitat. If you look at this map and think, "man, that is a lot of roads". Just zoom in please.