HR404 introduced. Hearing protection act

[Forkyfinder]

I’d bet people would be shocked what a 3d printer would do

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Check these out, 3d printed titanium "sponge like" material.

I dont think this one will ever be cheap though.

 

[3855WIN]

I hope it passes, I think the political climate due to market shifts for suppressors is better now that when a very similar bill was introduced in the 115th. Oddly the 115th had a way better make-up to get this passed, Buuuuuuuut.........[insert smart ass]

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Fairly sure that was around the time of the Vegas shooting. Anything pro gun wasn’t going to be popular.

 

[jryoung]

Fairly sure that was around the time of the Vegas shooting. Anything pro gun wasn’t going to be popular.

Vegas was October, the 115th started in Jan. Certainly could have been the end of it if Paul Ryan would have given it a hearing or it had NRA A+ rated co-sponsors.

 

[elks]

Vegas was October, the 115th started in Jan. Certainly could have been the end of it if Paul Ryan would have given it a hearing or it had NRA A+ rated co-sponsors.

The curious thing about the entire situation. When the Vegas shooting occurred we were well on our way to 115th. There was a lot of chatter around removing the stamp/tax so much that many gun manufacturers retooled and started making threaded barrels standard in anticipation.

Then out of nowhere a mass shooting occurred using a suppressor a mass shooting with no apparent motive??? Why?

This time around it has a chance we just need to make sure our reps hear us... pun intended.

 

[Gulf of America]

Then out of nowhere a mass shooting occurred using a suppressor a mass shooting with no apparent motive??? Why?

Can you point to any evidence that the Vegas shooter used a suppressor? I've seen a congressman's response that people could identify where the shots were coming from because he wasn't using a suppressor.

 

[millerkiller77]

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"The PTR VENT 1 achieved a Suppression Rating™ of 57.3 when tested on a Savage Model 10 .308 with Federal XM80 ammunition, demonstrating strong sound reduction performance." — PEW Science Master the silence with the VENT 1 - 7.62 x 51mm Suppressor, a paragon of precision engineering. Utilizing...

www.ptr-us.com

Check these out, 3d printed titanium "sponge like" material.

I dont think this one will ever be cheap though.

A PETG filament suppressor cost around 65 cents to print , nylon Kevlar filament is about double that. End user 3d printing filaments are continually getting better and better.

 

[Forkyfinder]

A PETG filament suppressor cost around 65 cents to print , nylon Kevlar filament is about double that. End user 3d printing filaments are continually getting better and better.

? I guess im not completely following.

Titanium is expensive, a 3d printing machine (especially one that does titanium) is expensive, time on that machine is also expensive. Not just that - programming and designing it isnt free either.

A bit like looking at the diesel fuel a bulldozer burns and saying moving dirt is cheap....

 

[millerkiller77]

? I guess im not completely following.

Titanium is expensive, a 3d printing machine (especially one that does titanium) is expensive, time on that machine is also expensive. Not just that - programming and designing it isnt free either.

A bit like looking at the diesel fuel a bulldozer burns and saying moving dirt is cheap....

I'm just pointing out that end user 3D printing equipment and technology is constantly evolving and getting better. Is a home printed suppressor any where near the performance level of the one you posted? No, not even close.
The price point of that titanium hybrid suppressor is miniscule compared to the investment in equipment, prototypes, R&D, marketing, etc that company has probably spent on getting it to the final product end users. I'm guessing they'll need to sell many thousands of them to turn a profit. I hope they are successful and continue bringing new, innovative products to the market because that will encourage the same growth at the hobbyists level.

And moving dirt is cheap. It's everything involved afterwards that's expensive.

 

[elks]

Can you point to any evidence that the Vegas shooter used a suppressor? I've seen a congressman's response that people could identify where the shots were coming from because he wasn't using a suppressor.

Sorry it was the Virginia beach shooter.

 

[Gulf of America]

Sorry it was the Virginia beach shooter.

That was May 2019, a year and a half into the 115th congress. As much as you try to find the conspiracy theory there, I'm just not seeing it.

 

[Nick87]

I’ve had a can for 8 years now and after getting the first one I think it’s ridiculous that I can’t have one thrown on a new gun when I buy it like a guy would a scope. The materials they are made of is a joke for the cost and only reason they can charge so much is the bottle neck the government has created

Dude were not even allowed to own one here.

 

[cgasner1]

Dude were not even allowed to own one here.

I’ve heard California sucks

 

[Dave N]

Dude were not even allowed to own one here.

Hell, we still have to open our knives by hand, too.

 

[Nick87]

I’ve heard California sucks

Pretty much, but with snow and humidity.

 

[dranrab]

Can you imagine the heartbreaking stories of ATF agents losing their jobs when the demand for tax stamps dwindles? Sad.

 

[NDGuy]

I bet the manufacturing cost of a suppressor is REALLY inexpensive. mtmuley

Comically low, and to think how many little shops would spring up that can make them. 3D printed etc

 

[pilsner]

They need to come down in price, they get way too much for what they are.

Hopefully when a suppressor company can just offer us a product under the usual retail rule of thirds instead of being a lobbyist, providing us with a trust attorney, and then finally selling us a product for what should be $1200 that they have $400 in manufacturing costs associated with (but costs $2k now), then prices will drop back to normal. When you read that last sentence put the word normal in air quotes.

 

[3855WIN]

Can you point to any evidence that the Vegas shooter used a suppressor? I've seen a congressman's response that people could identify where the shots were coming from because he wasn't using a suppressor.

Vegas didn’t need to use a suppressor. No one was going to touch anything pro gun after that happened.

 

[longbow51]

Can you point to any evidence that the Vegas shooter used a suppressor? I've seen a congressman's response that people could identify where the shots were coming from because he wasn't using a suppressor.

He wasn't, and there were shots from at least 2 directions. Long time trusted friend was there, life-long hunter.

 

[Gulf of America]