Howa/Legacy Sports Update

[Matt-LSI]

Good morning!

Im back in the office from my 7 week stint at Ft. Benning.

We have got a lot of great new rifles planned for 2017. We are currently working on the new catalog and i will post some teasers when i get the chance.
We are currently shipping the new Howa Mini Action in 6.5 grendel and 7.62x39.
We are expecting the NEW Howa HCR to start shipping in large volumes here in the next few weeks!
Howa HCR


Howa Mini Action

 

[LuketheDog]

So is that HCR priced similar to the Ruger Precision Rifle?

BTW, thanks for your response to my message about the .270 Multicam two months ago, I ended up getting a 6.5 Creedmore...

 

[wytex]

Sure would like to see a .243 wssm in that mini action series.

 

[Matt-LSI]

So is that HCR priced similar to the Ruger Precision Rifle?

BTW, thanks for your response to my message about the .270 Multicam two months ago, I ended up getting a 6.5 Creedmore...

yes it is, msrp on the all black, rifle only is msrp of $1239

Gene Lumsden, CEO of Legacy Sports International, Inc. proudly announces the New! Howa HCR (Howa Chassis Rifle for Long Range Shooting) from Legacy Sports International, Inc.
The Howa HCR combines precision Howa barreled actions and precision engineered aluminum chassis system that out performs all other factory precision rifles! With accuracy and modularity in mind, the Howa HCR allows the shooter to adjust and configure the rifle to their needs making sure that any shooter can quickly and accurately put rounds on target.
Mounted on an Ar-style buffer tube system, the Howa HCR utilizes the fully adjustable LUTH-AR MBA-3 stock. Length of Pull is adjustable form 12.5” to 16.75”. Comb height is also adjustable to fine tune for scope height-over-bore.
Available in .223 Rem, .243 Win, 6.5 Creedmoor and .308 Win chamberings with 20” and 24” heavy barreled options (depending on caliber). MSRP $1239.00
Features
• Howa 1500 20” & 24” Heavy Barreled options
• Black 6061-T6 Aluminum Chassis with Free-Float M-LOK Forend
• LUTH AR Butt Stock with LOP Adjustment from 12.5” to 16.75”
• Adjustable Comb
• MAGPUL MOE Grip
• 10 RD ACCURATE Mag / Detachable All Steel Mag- Teflon Coated
• 2 Stage H.A.C.T. Trigger
• 3 Position Safety
Specifications

.223 Rem. 20” HB, 1-9” Twist-
Weight- 9.6lbs
OAL- 39-43.25”
LOP- 12.5-16.75”
.223 Rem. 24” HB, 1-9” Twist-
Weight- 10.2lbs
OAL- 43-47.25”
LOP- 12.5-16.75”
.243 Win. 24” HB, 1-10” Twist-
Weight- 10.2lbs
OAL- 43-47.25”
LOP- 12.5-16.75”
6.5 Creedmoor 24” HB, 1-8” Twist-
Weight- 10.2lbs
OAL- 43-47.25”
LOP- 12.5-16.75”

.308 Win 20” HB, 1-10” Twist -
Weight- 9.6lbs
OAL- 39-43.25”
LOP- 12.5-16.75”
.308 Win 24” HB, 1-10” Twist -
Weight- 10.2lbs
OAL- 43-47.25”
LOP- 12.5-16.75

 

[Matt-LSI]

Sure would like to see a .243 wssm in that mini action series.

we dont plan on doing anything that potent. i do not know if the reduced receiver setup could handle that round. 6.5 grendel and 7.62x39 is the biggest we are doing in that platform.

 

[Formidilosus]

.223 Rem. 20” HB, 1-9” Twist-
Weight- 9.6lbs
OAL- 39-43.25”
LOP- 12.5-16.75”
.223 Rem. 24” HB, 1-9” Twist-
Weight- 10.2lbs
OAL- 43-47.25”
LOP- 12.5-16.75”
.243 Win. 24” HB, 1-10” Twist-
Weight- 10.2lbs
OAL- 43-47.25”
LOP- 12.5-16.75”

Why did you choose to put slow twists for 223 and 243 on (all of your guns) a gun designed for long range? At a minimum ALL of your .223R and 22-250's should be 1-8" (1-7/7.5" would be better), and 6mm's should be 1-8" minimum (again 1-7/7.5 would be ideal).


That manufactures continue to be stuck in 1950's thinking is baffling. A 1-7" or 1-8" twist 223 will shoot great with every bullet from 35gr to 80gr. A 1-7" or 1-8" twisted 243 will shoot great with every bullet from 70gr varmint bullets to 115gr VLD's. Litteraly the most popular bullet in the Precision Rifle Series (the target market of the Ruger RPR and your biggest potential market for the HCR) is the Berger 105gr Hybrid- a bullet your gun can not shoot.

The biggest, WAY biggest, growing segment for bullet makers is long range, high BC bullets- both hunters and competitors. Not just your "long range" rifles either. There are a ton of hunters using lightweight 223's, 22-250's, and 243's for hunting that want to be able to use the high BC bullets.

 

[1_pointer]

Matt- I'd really read and think on what the Formid guy posted! After you "fix" the twist rates, use a mirror and start making a few in LH!