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MTorWY

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I am not aware of any retail fire safe that is rated to sit in your basement through a full-on house fire and leave you with working guns at the end (and don't forget all the water in the basement from the firemen. They are rated in 30 minutes or 60 minutes type standards. So maybe if the fire is somewhere near and the fire is put out quickly you may have a chance.
Makes sense. I can’t believe how many options there are in this world now.
 

superDUECE22

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I have the cannon super wide body 80 gun and it's basically a glorified sheetrock box. It would keep your local amateur thief out and your kids but I'm positive with a cordless grinder and a prybar I could break into it in about 5 minutes. The craftsmanship looks like some 10 year old's built it for science project.

Also like to note that being on the local fire department i can tell you that most safes don't hold up to a full-on structure fire. Even the safes that did hold up to the fires the guns in them are all toast, the only ones that survive are the guns in socks
 

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I have the cannon super wide body 80 gun and it's basically a glorified sheetrock box. It would keep your local amateur thief out and your kids but I'm positive with a cordless grinder and a prybar I could break into it in about 5 minutes. The craftsmanship looks like some 10 year old's built it for science project.

Also like to note that being on the local fire department i can tell you that most safes don't hold up to a full-on structure fire. Even the safes that did hold up to the fires the guns in them are all toast, the only ones that survive are the guns in socks
What type of sock we talking here?

Just those cloth cheap gun sleeves?


I ask because that could be pretty cheap added protection on the two guns I would actually miss....
 

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Gonna be giving away a Steelhead safe in our FT+ August sweepstakes.

 

RaiderRich

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Aside from winning a safe, the advice already given is sound. Don't discount safes sold by Lowes and Home Depot, you can sometimes get pretty good bang for the buck and in some cases free delivery. Just research models sold by whoever. I have 2 safes and need a third, bought one from Lowes, first one they tried to deliver had a bent handle and the driver noted it and took care of getting a new one reordered, awesome service. The second one I got from Sportsmans and it was nice as well.
 

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When I was looking to buy a safe, I talked to a security company. The guy explained fire ratings to me, most of which I've forgotten. I do recall him saying most safes aren't going to leave your contents in any useable condition during a full house blaze. He did say two things that stuck with me. First, he recommended placing the safe along an exterior wall where firefighters can douse the wall and cool the temperature vs what an interior wall experiences during a house fire. Second, he recommended bolting the safe to the floor regardless of where you place it. Not so much from a security standpoint as a safety precaution. He said 1/3 the weight of a safe is in the door. It's not that hard to tip over a safe by hanging on the door when it's open (think kid playing around). Yes, odds are quite low but result would be terrible.

I have an older Canon. It's fine for my needs but as others have said - doesn't hold what it says it should.
 

superDUECE22

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What type of sock we talking here?

Just those cloth cheap gun sleeves?


I ask because that could be pretty cheap added protection on the two guns I would actually miss....
I guess i have never take the time to ask the homeowner for type of socks but in my search online those are about the only ones available minus the silicone based one that intended to absorb moisture. I shouldn't say all the guns without socks were complete toast, but they have had a lot of damage compared to ones in sock. This can also very greatly on how hot the fire was. Also, most people don't realize they can & will rust very fast when water ends up getting inside them during the process of the FD putting thousands of gallons of water onto the blaze. For the people that put important documents in their safe highly reccomend these:
 

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Big Fin

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I really like the Steelhead safes. I have a Liberty deluxe series at home. The Steelhead are a huge upgrade. They are built differently, designed differently, and it is apparent immediately. The interior layout is better and gets more utilization of the space. Doors and hinges are the really stout.
 

oldbutnotdead

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Did you pick a safe yet? I have to tell you, I'm leaning toward a Liberty based on price / options/ size for the money. I wanted to look at Steelhead, but way over priced when I can get a Liberty for half the price and it's bigger.
 

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