First it’s gas powered cars & trucks now they’ll be hopping the border to stock up on DCon...
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MarvB
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So mismanaged for so long.... still blaming the decline on the doe “massacres” of the 50s. Rangelands are crap, buck/doe numbers totally out of balance, even if you get a wildlife biologist to suggest an anterless hunt they are typically overruled by county commissioners (read as bankers and realtors) who know NOTHING about wildlife, seasons in the hottest part of the year (with now the forests closed half the time), could go on and on but
only reason I still apply there is I’m one under max points for elk and antelope but will let the residents battle for their deer tags....
So mismanaged for so long.... still blaming the decline on the doe “massacres” of the 50s. Rangelands are crap, buck/doe numbers totally out of balance, even if you get a wildlife biologist to suggest an anterless hunt they are typically overruled by county commissioners (read as bankers and realtors) who know NOTHING about wildlife, seasons in the hottest part of the year (with now the forests closed half the time), could go on and on but
only reason I still apply there is I’m one under max points for elk and antelope but will let the residents battle for their deer tags....
Expand on the Commissioner piece, please?
Fullquiver
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They don't hate ungulates they love rats... And the diseases they will inevitably bring..
MarvB
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Ben I’ll give you the “official” narrative from CDFW... rather than my own somewhat jaded verbiage:
The Busch Bill was passed in 1958 giving the authority to have antlerless deer hunts to the County Boards of Supervisors in 37 of California’s 58 counties – and many of those 37 counties identified contain some of the state’s best deer hunting. The Department of Fish and Game (DFG) is required to notify the Boards of Supervisors of any planned antlerless hunts by Dec. 15 of each year. Once doing so, the Board of Supervisors of each county are then required to hold a public hearing to receive the information from DFG to justify the hunt, and to receive testimony from the public regarding the proposal. The process often ends at this point due to negative public perceptions and expressed opinions requesting that no antlerless hunts be allowed.
While good science supports the use of doe or antlerless hunts as a valid deer population management tool, and although these hunts provide for additional hunting opportunities, they can also be highly controversial. In many counties, emotions on the subject run high and popular public opinion will often not support the hunts. Thus, since the County Boards of Supervisors are elected public officials who must answer to their constituents, when the public sentiment is negative and in the majority, the Supervisors will often reject any proposed antlerless hunts.
According to Senior Wildlife Biologist and Deer Management Supervisor Craig Stowers, “Sound data and scientific justifications support holding such hunts. California’s deer population is now heavily skewed toward the female portion of the population, and amongst that group it is skewed toward older females. Until the time comes when DFG receives authority to offer these doe or antlerless hunts again, we will continue to see the pattern that has developed over the last 50 years.”
MarvB
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Not dissimilar to CDFW broaching the subject of allowing lion hunting again a few years back... quickly shut down by public “outrage” and then doubled down by disallowing the use of hounds for bear the following year... state is a mess, glad to be gone!
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