CO LO voucher question

[Deleted member 22670]

If you purchase a voucher from a landowner the rules state that they must allow access for hunting during the season the voucher was purchased. However, is the landowner under any obligation to tell you where the property is, or even respond to your attempts to contact them? I'm just curious, because it seems as though the LO's get to sell these vouchers, but don't really have to help the purchaser with accessing the property. If you bought a voucher, contacted the LO and asked for the property's location, and he or she refused to give it, are you SOL?

I'm just curious because for what these friggin things are going for you would think that allowing access to the property would be a given.

If they wanted to play hardball, how would one go about determining where the private property is?

 

[Oak]

They are required to grant access to the property enrolled in the landowner preference program. They may own additional properties that are not enrolled. Right now, if they don't tell you where the lands are located, your only recourse is to contact the local DWM, which would have been the one to determine eligibility for the property in the first place.

There will be many changes to the system implemented next year, including some that may make it easier to locate the properties in question.

 

[Khunter]

sounds like you are just fishing, rather than having an issue for yourself?

I and a couple wildlife officers showed up on landowner representatives doorstep and squared away the situation immediately when that happened to me and I was getting the run around. One can call the DWM for that area and tell him what is going on and ask for help. Landowners get bounced from the program if they do not allow access to all the parcels tied to your exact voucher. Each has a unique CPW-assigned ID that tells CPW what lands the voucher is tied to. A big landowner could have multiple unique combos of land assigned to one or more vouchers, so one has to realize they probably do not get access to every parcel listed in county assessor database for a given landowner name.

You have a right to access the land every single day of your hunting season. The DWM for the area almost certainly will know your landowner and want to see it worked out as the alternative is locked up land and animals hanging on pvt..

I have another voucher this year with a different landowner and doubt I will have any issues. But if I do it is easy, albeit and unwanted PIA to fix.

 

[Deleted member 22670]

Not fishing. I bought a 3rd rifle deer voucher and I haven't decided if I want to hunt the private yet because the public can be very good. I have bought vouchers before, but in NM. I remember it was a HUGE deal to try and hunt the private with the one particular LO. I started digging on CO's web site and it reminded me alot of the NM system. Hence all the questions.

On a side note, I'm really not favorable to the whole LO voucher system, but I moved here because I love hunting this state, and I got the voucher at a great price that made it cheaper than going out of state. I guess that just makes me one giant hypocrite though. I was just curious if since I paid the premium, I had a right to hunt the private land.

Thanks KHunter and Oak for the help.

 

[Oak]

Some landowners will not sell you the voucher unless you agree that you will not hunt the private property, which is in blatant violation of the rules of the program. If that happens, you really need to report it to CPW.

 

[Khunter]

Yeah. I hate the voucher program too....but always make the most of legal options available. No good reason not to. Good luck with your hunt

 

[jlmatthew]

Some landowners will not sell you the voucher unless you agree that you will not hunt the private property, which is in blatant violation of the rules of the program. If that happens, you really need to report it to CPW.

Wonder how many transactions occur where the buyer agree's not too hunt the land just to have access to the voucher. I'd do it for certain GMU's. I hate the voucher program as well, but will also admit I use them when I can, I like to hunt too much.

They should only be good on the deeded acreage they came from IMO.

And just wait until next year when the new rules come into play and the large ranches grab all the vouchers and the guys with smaller places start crying to the legislature.

 

[1_pointer]

What's a ball parked price on a mule deer voucher in a decent to good unit?

 

[Deleted member 22670]

For 3rd rifle your looking at 2 -3 k. You can shop around and get much better deals if you are patient.

 

[1_pointer]

Thanks for the info.

 

[roadhunter]

Here is a site that shows how much these tags cost.

http://www.gohunt.com/landowner-tags#

 

[Oak]

What's a ball parked price on a mule deer voucher in a decent to good unit?

"Decent" is relative term, and probably opens more units to residents than non-residents. I think the majority of non-residents consider there to be about 10 "decent" units in western CO. I would argue that there are very few that are not "decent."

Expect to pay anywhere from $800 to $2,500 for the majority of MD vouchers. Premium hunts...up to $10,000.

 

[jryoung]

I'd pay $10k to hunt with Oak and Dink.

 

[1_pointer]

"Decent" is relative term, and probably opens more units to residents than non-residents. I think the majority of non-residents consider there to be about 10 "decent" units in western CO. I would argue that there are very few that are not "decent."

Expect to pay anywhere from $800 to $2,500 for the majority of MD vouchers. Premium hunts...up to $10,000.

Thanks! Yes it is a relative term, but you've seen what I shot in the past, so you have quite a good idea how low my level of standards is...

 

[oilcan]

One thing to consider also is depending on which season you Hunt there may not be many Deer on the proerty during your Hunt..Some times you can be better of Hunting the public land depneding on the unit.