Sasquatchewan
Well-known member
It was a quickly and poorly written "law" which came in the form of an Order in Council. This was not a legislation passed in Parliament, discussed and voted on. The Minority Liberal Government (lowest minority of all time) abused of special powers (Order in Council) given to them given the pandemic and the fact that we don't have a sitting Parliament. The OICs are intended to get sh*t done quickly for public safety as we are in a pandemic and Parliament is closed, it's meant to achieve things quickly for the greater good.
Canadian politics is a lot different then the USA's. The Liberal Gov't abused of these powers during a pandemic to push their agenda. In 2011, the Conservative Party ran a campaign with the "destruction" of the Long Gun Registry as one of their main points on agenda. They were elected as a majority Gov't, by a landslide, which was a clear message from voters. Fast forward to these last elections, the Liberal party ran for re-election (after a successful Majority Gov't) with unclear future gun legislation as a point on agenda. They barely made it and the lowest minority Gov't was placed in "power". What does this mean for Canada? The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, and his minority Liberal Gov't would have to sit in parliament and sit on egg-shells as most legislation they would pass could face a vote of no confidence and send us back into elections. For this reason, they avoided anything major WRT changing gun laws to avoid being challenged by other parties and potentially face a vote of no confidence.
Well, the pandemic gave them the special powers they needed to push their agenda, while dancing on the not yet buried graves of the victims of the largest mass murder in Canada. The OIC essentially rendered 1500 models of firearms prohibited overnight. It was a poorly written document which, I sh*t you not, included AR15 Airsoft variants, AR15 models which were in fact websites (for example the AR15 model AR15.com, was now banned). Also on this list, were weapons 20mm in caliber+, 10,000 joules at the muzzle+, surface to air missile platforms, surface to surface platforms, howitzers, mortars, rocket launchers, etc, all items that were mostly already prohibited under other legislation. This list was clearly quickly put together, in a matter of hours most likely and poorly vetted.
On 20mm, the intent was clearly to prohibit certain rifles only, but the new legislation is open to interpretation and unclear. The way it is worded, shotguns with removable chokes 12g+ were now prohibited. They clarified things and "assured us they weren't after our hunting guns" (more on that later). This is what happens when a bunch of politicians with no knowledge on the matter sit together and pull things out of their asses, with no extensive proof reading and information from actual experts, as it is the case for ALL legislation or document passed in Parliament.
As for hunting, the Liberal Gov't has always promised us they wouldn't touch hunting or bolt action rifles. Well, they lied again, the 10,000 joules limit now affected a myriad of bolt guns intended for hunting. Not only that, but the Prime Minister and his cabinet went out to say that the rifles on the list WERE NOT hunting rifles and that NO ONE needed any of those rifles for hunting, stating things like the .223 not being a hunting caliber (which is false, .223 is legal in some provinces for big game hunting). They made this statement, in writing and verbally, and immediately followed by saying this new legislation DID NOT apply to indigenous who used them for hunting. Wait, I thought you said these rifles weren't designed for hunting?
Finally (but there's a lot more), the Gov't promised a buy-back. But the OIC cannot do that, any expenditure must be passed and voted on in Parliament. This means that the buy-back option is not yet possible, if ever. Now, they're saying there will be the option to grandfather the weapons so that those, like me, who own them can keep them, locked up, until the day we die (at which point they will be destroyed). So the Gov't is telling us that these hundred thousand+ rifles are too dangerous for Canadians and that we have no business owning them, BUT, they create a legislation that allows us to keep them, achieving absolutely NOTHING for public safety...
Canadian politics is a lot different then the USA's. The Liberal Gov't abused of these powers during a pandemic to push their agenda. In 2011, the Conservative Party ran a campaign with the "destruction" of the Long Gun Registry as one of their main points on agenda. They were elected as a majority Gov't, by a landslide, which was a clear message from voters. Fast forward to these last elections, the Liberal party ran for re-election (after a successful Majority Gov't) with unclear future gun legislation as a point on agenda. They barely made it and the lowest minority Gov't was placed in "power". What does this mean for Canada? The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, and his minority Liberal Gov't would have to sit in parliament and sit on egg-shells as most legislation they would pass could face a vote of no confidence and send us back into elections. For this reason, they avoided anything major WRT changing gun laws to avoid being challenged by other parties and potentially face a vote of no confidence.
Well, the pandemic gave them the special powers they needed to push their agenda, while dancing on the not yet buried graves of the victims of the largest mass murder in Canada. The OIC essentially rendered 1500 models of firearms prohibited overnight. It was a poorly written document which, I sh*t you not, included AR15 Airsoft variants, AR15 models which were in fact websites (for example the AR15 model AR15.com, was now banned). Also on this list, were weapons 20mm in caliber+, 10,000 joules at the muzzle+, surface to air missile platforms, surface to surface platforms, howitzers, mortars, rocket launchers, etc, all items that were mostly already prohibited under other legislation. This list was clearly quickly put together, in a matter of hours most likely and poorly vetted.
On 20mm, the intent was clearly to prohibit certain rifles only, but the new legislation is open to interpretation and unclear. The way it is worded, shotguns with removable chokes 12g+ were now prohibited. They clarified things and "assured us they weren't after our hunting guns" (more on that later). This is what happens when a bunch of politicians with no knowledge on the matter sit together and pull things out of their asses, with no extensive proof reading and information from actual experts, as it is the case for ALL legislation or document passed in Parliament.
As for hunting, the Liberal Gov't has always promised us they wouldn't touch hunting or bolt action rifles. Well, they lied again, the 10,000 joules limit now affected a myriad of bolt guns intended for hunting. Not only that, but the Prime Minister and his cabinet went out to say that the rifles on the list WERE NOT hunting rifles and that NO ONE needed any of those rifles for hunting, stating things like the .223 not being a hunting caliber (which is false, .223 is legal in some provinces for big game hunting). They made this statement, in writing and verbally, and immediately followed by saying this new legislation DID NOT apply to indigenous who used them for hunting. Wait, I thought you said these rifles weren't designed for hunting?
Finally (but there's a lot more), the Gov't promised a buy-back. But the OIC cannot do that, any expenditure must be passed and voted on in Parliament. This means that the buy-back option is not yet possible, if ever. Now, they're saying there will be the option to grandfather the weapons so that those, like me, who own them can keep them, locked up, until the day we die (at which point they will be destroyed). So the Gov't is telling us that these hundred thousand+ rifles are too dangerous for Canadians and that we have no business owning them, BUT, they create a legislation that allows us to keep them, achieving absolutely NOTHING for public safety...
