Any hockey fans out there?

I don't see how they can even pay him that and be under the cap. Given the strength of the Wild prospect pool, I could see a plan where a lot of young players take the places of more expensive veterans. But that might be the huge ? for Kaprizov. $16mil is great but it really limits the Wild if the young guys can't step in and step up quickly.
Doesn't this cap go up by quite a bit this year and the next? Im not sure what all came out of the CBA yet

Edit: Was 88m last year, its 95.5m this year which is a pretty big bump of 7.5m. It is projected to be over 100m in 2026-2027 season.
 
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Doesn't this cap go up by quite a bit this year and the next? Im not sure what all came out of the CBA yet
Yes, it should. $95.5 this year, $104 next then $113. But other guys like to get raises too. Rossi has 3 yrs left. Tarasenko and Zuc have one more year and they clear about $9m in cap space. Wild can pay him, but it means that the young guys have to be productive immediately. If you are Kaprizov, do you want to bet on that?

McDavid is in the same spot. Ask to be paid his fair value and he limits the team's financial flexibility to add pieces later. McDavid just wants a cup. I suspect he will take less than he is worth to win.
 
The Thrill isn't the best player in the league though, McDavid is. And its not even close. He is still one of the next 4 putting him in the top 5 but McDavid deserves the rumored 17-19m for each year. I'd put the next 4 more like 14-15 so the Thrill getting offered 16m and then rejecting it, man I just don't get it. I really hope this is just a rumor and not fact.

Also, the Wild can afford right now that 16m, they have the cap with no hinderance for the first two years of that.
 
The Thrill isn't the best player in the league though, McDavid is. And its not even close. He is still one of the next 4 putting him in the top 5 but McDavid deserves the rumored 17-19m for each year. I'd put the next 4 more like 14-15 so the Thrill getting offered 16m and then rejecting it, man I just don't get it. I really hope this is just a rumor and not fact.

Also, the Wild can afford right now that 16m, they have the cap with no hinderance for the first two years of that.
Agree. The difference between Kaprizov and McDavid is the Oilers are good and the Wild aren’t, no offense to Wild fans. The Wild paying him $16m doesn’t make them any better. They need more pieces. Oilers can compete now. Agree the $16m doesn’t kill the budget but the bet is on the youth. That’s a bet that makes sense if you are a GM. I’m not sure it makes sense for the player. Maybe he will go to camp and see what they have before signing?
I’m just happy to have hockey starting back up.
 
Sorry for being silly but who the heck is the thrill? Seriously do not know. Only usually watch the playoffs and do not remember seeing him there.
 
I'm curious what the Oilers are going to do with McDavid. I don't think he's going to sign an extension with them. Do they let him walk or trade him and get something for him? maybe then try to re sign him in the offseason. I think McDavid also has to think if he wants more money or a Stanley Cup. He can't have both. Look at teams like Boston, Tampa and Pittsburg. Those core players took less money in order for them to build winning teams....... The Montreal Canadians are looking for another centerman and we have cap room......
 
Agree. The difference between Kaprizov and McDavid is the Oilers are good and the Wild aren’t, no offense to Wild fans. The Wild paying him $16m doesn’t make them any better. They need more pieces. Oilers can compete now. Agree the $16m doesn’t kill the budget but the bet is on the youth. That’s a bet that makes sense if you are a GM. I’m not sure it makes sense for the player. Maybe he will go to camp and see what they have before signing?
I’m just happy to have hockey starting back up.
I'm glad too but I'll disagree with you on the wild not being good and needing more pieces. It has been masterful what they have been able to do since the decision to buyout two of the worst contracts in not only team history but league history.

Are they the best team? Heck no but they are still what I would call good. There are 32 teams and with 16 making the playoffs, it isn't much of a measure to go off of how they keep making the playoffs. They are playoff underperformers no doubt, the Leafs and the Wild were really doing a good job at competing on that top award and now the Wild hold it solely. I still however have full faith and place them as a legit contender this year and remember they play in what will be again the hardest division of the playoffs - the central. I'm not a super fan of the offseason moves they did (or honestly the lack there of) and it is curious to me why they have left over 4mil open in the cap as of now heading into this season.
 
I'm curious what the Oilers are going to do with McDavid. I don't think he's going to sign an extension with them. Do they let him walk or trade him and get something for him? maybe then try to re sign him in the offseason. I think McDavid also has to think if he wants more money or a Stanley Cup. He can't have both. Look at teams like Boston, Tampa and Pittsburg. Those core players took less money in order for them to build winning teams....... The Montreal Canadians are looking for another centerman and we have cap room......
I total agree. The Oilers had an amazing opening with one of the best rosters the last few years and that was their window to win it. They sure were exciting and got close but there is no way McDavid can get his payday and keep the Oilers competitive with the cap room they have right now with Drais, Nugent, Hyman, Nurse and Bouch all with huge cap hits
 
I'm glad too but I'll disagree with you on the wild not being good and needing more pieces. It has been masterful what they have been able to do since the decision to buyout two of the worst contracts in not only team history but league history.

Are they the best team? Heck no but they are still what I would call good. There are 32 teams and with 16 making the playoffs, it isn't much of a measure to go off of how they keep making the playoffs. They are playoff underperformers no doubt, the Leafs and the Wild were really doing a good job at competing on that top award and now the Wild hold it solely. I still however have full faith and place them as a legit contender this year and remember they play in what will be again the hardest division of the playoffs - the central. I'm not a super fan of the offseason moves they did (or honestly the lack there of) and it is curious to me why they have left over 4mil open in the cap as of now heading into this season.
Agree, but making the playoffs might be a good definition for a GM but great players want more. I’m a Blackhawks fan so I would love to sniff the playoffs.lol.

On McDavid, I doubt he goes anywhere. What competitive team could clear the cap space to add him and still remain competitive if he wants $18-20m?
This all is the result of a hard cap and a game where the best players are only on the ice a third of the game for 60sec increments. Teams need to be deep.
 
Agree, but making the playoffs might be a good definition for a GM but great players want more. I’m a Blackhawks fan so I would love to sniff the playoffs.lol.

On McDavid, I doubt he goes anywhere. What competitive team could clear the cap space to add him and still remain competitive if he wants $18-20m?
This all is the result of a hard cap and a game where the best players are only on the ice a third of the game for 60sec increments. Teams need to be deep.
A team that isn't heavy on big contracts. Like I mentioned, lots of guys on the Oilers with big cap hits. The Ducks however can afford two McDavids if they want. May help sell tickets and that may be worth it. Even your Blackhawks are entering this year with 18m left to spend
 
Used To be a very strong draw for players to leave Canadian teams due to taxes...not sure that is still present.

The Wild have been good because of strong defense as much as offense. They haven't been big and tough enough to compete well in the playoffs.

Lots of young talent in the pipeline though.
 
Used To be a very strong draw for players to leave Canadian teams due to taxes...not sure that is still present.

The Wild have been good because of strong defense as much as offense. They haven't been big and tough enough to compete well in the playoffs.

Lots of young talent in the pipeline though.
But we really need to keep kirill to score enough goals to win
 
As evident by the Wild Win-loss record last year with and without him. A healthy Wild team last year is a completely different seed in the playoffs
His health is a question mark for sure. Making it even more odd that he didn't take the $16m. It's hard to say what those conversations are like. Wild are an enigma. They need one more offensive piece (and health) to take the next step. The FA market this year wasn't great. That is probably why they have $4m in cap space. Then there was the talk of Rossi not being happy. They are the only playoff team with a prospect pool in the top five. The question is how close are some of those guys? Also, next year's FA market is very deep.

Intriguing teams including the Ducks you mentioned are Utah andMontreal?
 
His health is a question mark for sure. Making it even more odd that he didn't take the $16m. It's hard to say what those conversations are like. Wild are an enigma. They need one more offensive piece (and health) to take the next step. The FA market this year wasn't great. That is probably why they have $4m in cap space. Then there was the talk of Rossi not being happy. They are the only playoff team with a prospect pool in the top five. The question is how close are some of those guys? Also, next year's FA market is very deep.

Intriguing teams including the Ducks you mentioned are Utah andMontreal?
From Kirill's perspective, I woulda taken the money just because he's so injury prone imo
 
Then there was the talk of Rossi not being happy.
He was demoted to the bottom line and it wasn't entirely because of his play. It has been quiet and there have been rumors that there were clubhouse/management issues with him. If I had to guess it was likely due to him not getting the contract dealt with during the season and he was likely making it known.
His health is a question mark for sure.
Exactly why he should have taken the deal. Can he actually last 8 years in the league at his current level of skill? Only 2 of 5 seasons did he not get injured to miss significant time. Only played exactly half of the season last year
 
Rossi signed a contract a few weeks ago. 3 years, 15 million, so the Wild seem to see continued growth from him. He still could be a trad piece that might be attractive to another team though. The Wild need another quality center.
 
His health is a question mark for sure. Making it even more odd that he didn't take the $16m. It's hard to say what those conversations are like. Wild are an enigma. They need one more offensive piece (and health) to take the next step. The FA market this year wasn't great. That is probably why they have $4m in cap space. Then there was the talk of Rossi not being happy. They are the only playoff team with a prospect pool in the top five. The question is how close are some of those guys? Also, next year's FA market is very deep.

Intriguing teams including the Ducks you mentioned are Utah andMontreal?
Utah was the first one that came to my mind. And both they and the Blackhawks have Russian front office/scouting ties. Tampa, also, but they are almost up against the cap, so would have to move signficant pieces even with the Cap going up the next 3 years.

Very little info or details out there, but it sure feels like he wants out of MN.
 

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