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338 recoil

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I recently bought a Browning BAR in 338 mag that the barrel has been cut to 20 inchs to make it more like a carbine.do you think that will change the felt recoil.
 
IMHO, probably not. It's pretty much all mathmatics. Shorter barrel=less volocity=reduced recoil. Cut the barrel=less weight=increased recoil. They probably just cancel each other out for all practical purposes.

But, what you Will notice is the Boom Factor. It's going to be Loud as Hell !!!
 
338 kick less? funny statement hahahahhaha
ruger m77 in 338 kicks like a mule, the abolt 300 is a smooth shooter.
That BAR is a nice rig, post a pic!
 
You lose a lot of the reason for a 338 WM if you whack that barrel down. But, you can load for it pretty well considering that the BAR doesn't like the top-end loads. Should be able to sling a 225 grain interbond at 2700 - 2800 fps pretty easy with it and still have decent recoil due to the semi-auto system.
 
Don't know the reason someone cut the barrel down ,but I bought the gun fairly low price.I thought if I don't like it I can sell it .will give it a go andsee how it shoots.
 
Guess I don't know how to post picture
I will try again
 
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In my humble opinion, .338 Win Mags really don’t recoil all that bad. ,More of a big push as opposed to the sharp snap of higher velocity calibers.
I don’t think you will have any problems with it.

Mine is a Ruger 77 MK II. I bobbed 2 inches off the barrel (24” down to 22”) , and dropped it into a Borden Rimrock stock. The recoil is no big deal, it carries like a Mt rifle, and pushes 210 Barns at close to 2,900 fps.

 
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The BAR is gas operated, right? Figuring it probably started off at 24 inches, lopping that much off the barrel might have messed with the dynamics of the system. I knew a guy that cut his FAL barrel from 21 down to 16 1/2, and even with the system cranked all the way open, wasn't getting reliable feeding. With the bullet leaving the barrel earlier, not enough gas was bleeding off to run the gun. He ended up having to remove the gas block and drill out the hole in the barrel a bit to let more gas into the system. It might not be a problem, you'll have to shoot it to find out, but if it's short-stroking and not ejecting and feeding right, that short barrel could be the problem.
 
If I can find some ammo,I willshoot it this week end. Our local shope does not have any in stock.Going toCabelas this week end .

Looking on Handloads .com 4350 RRL19 and even Varget powder seems popular with the hand loaders. I would of thought Magpro or Reloader 22 for such a large case.
 
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I've had exceptional luck with RL 19 and the 338. Exponential Pi has a BAR in 338. He uses RL 19 as well and has had good results.

73.5 grains of RL 19 and a 225 grain Hornady Interbond give me right at 2950 fps with a 26 inch barrel. It's not a top load, but it's only 5% away from the max. I'd start at 70 grains and go from there.
 
If the recoil does get to you, the easiest and IMO best way to reduce recoil is to switch to a slightly faster powder. IME, the amount of powder is more important to recoil than the bullet weight. With the same bullet weight, it'll take less of the faster powder to get to max. Often times this does not cause one to lose much, if any velocity. I use R15 with 200/210gr bullets in my 338 Win. It recoils much less than the IMR 4350 load I shot previously. Max for R15 is 8 grains less than the 4350 load. According to Nosler, it should be faster as well, so win win!
 
If the recoil does get to you, the easiest and IMO best way to reduce recoil is to switch to a slightly faster powder. IME, the amount of powder is more important to recoil than the bullet weight. With the same bullet weight, it'll take less of the faster powder to get to max. Often times this does not cause one to lose much, if any velocity. I use R15 with 200/210gr bullets in my 338 Win. It recoils much less than the IMR 4350 load I shot previously. Max for R15 is 8 grains less than the 4350 load. According to Nosler, it should be faster as well, so win win!

Good stuff.

Not sure if it applies to the BAR, but you also will have some different operating pressures to deal with in terms of cycling the action & whatever kind of op-rod the action has. Some of the slower powders don't treat semi-auto actions kindly.
 
Found some thing interesting on my 338 BAR. While looking up the manufacture date ,I found out that the 20 inch barrel came that length from the factory .I thought someone had cut it down but that is not so,it came from the factory with 20 inch barrel.This is something I never new. just thought I would pass it on.
 
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