EastTNHunter
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I’m pretty sure that @Guy killed a grizzly with a 30-06 and 200gr NABs a couple of years ago
.300 WM enough for a big brown bear?
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MTLabrador
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If I got a call that I could fly to Kodiak tomorrow and take the biggest bear on the island I’d be bringing my .300 win mag and 180 grain partitions, and I wouldn’t think twice about it.
Potsie
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Launch a 180 at 3200 fps?
But I would be comfortable taking my ‘06 on a brown bear hunt.
Dinkshooter
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When I drew the tag and went, I took my 7MM REMINGTON MAGNUM (the most powerful cartridge known to man). Did not choose to shoot a bear and did not feel under gunned while looking at them through glass for 10 days straight. You do realize people kill them with arrows right?
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Yes he did, good story as well. I recall it got a little western.
I’ve known his guide, Joey, for more than 20 years. He is the best hunter I’ve ever known. He commented that if all clients were as Skookum as Guy was guiding would be easy.
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Not much.
I think @RealMuddyboots has an .06 that comes close. mtmuley
I HATE muzzle brakes. They should be banned. I own a 300 WM and shoot 6" groups, not on a bench, at 300 yards. I used to own a .338 WM but sold it recently for poor groups. Guides want clients to bring a .375 for brown bear, fyi.I have a .375 Ruger and I like it and used it to harvest a blacktail deer recently, it was overkill but with a copper bullet there wasn't that much more meat damage than a smaller caliber would have caused.
Interestingly though, Alaska Fish and Game actually officially recommends a 30-06 with heavy 200+ grain for grizzlies, since apparently many people can't shoot a heavier recoiling rifle well, quotes below:
Firearms and Ammunition for Hunting in Alaska, Alaska Department of Fish and Game
Information on hunting and trapping in Alaska.www.adfg.alaska.gov
"The rifle you bring hunting should be one with which you are comfortable. Because of the presence of brown and grizzly bears, many hunters have been convinced that a .300, .338, .375, or .416 magnum is needed for personal protection and to take large Alaska game. This is simply not true. The recoil and noise of these large cartridges is unpleasant at best and plainly painful to many shooters. It is very difficult to concentrate on shot placement when your brain and body remembers the unpleasant recoil and noise which occurs when you pull the trigger on one of the big magnums."
"The two most common complaints of professional Alaska guides are hunters who are not in good physical condition and hunters who cannot accurately shoot their rifles. Because these hunters do not practice enough they cannot shoot accurately enough. They miss their best chance at taking their dream animal or worse yet, they wound and lose an animal. Most experienced guides prefer that a hunter come to camp with a .270 or .30-06 rifle they can shoot well rather than a shiny new magnum that has been fired just enough to get sighted-in. If you are going to hunt brown bear on the Alaska Peninsula or Kodiak Island, a .30-06 loaded with 200- or 220-grain Nosler® or similar premium bullet will do the job with good shot placement. Only consider using a .300, .338 or larger magnum if you can shoot it as well as you can the .30-06."
"It is very popular now to purchase large magnum rifles equipped with a muzzle brake. Most muzzle brakes are very effective at reducing recoil. A .375 magnum with a muzzle brake recoils much like a .30-06. Before convincing yourself that you should use a muzzle-braked rifle, consider its disadvantages. A muzzle-brake increases the muzzle blast and noise to levels that quickly damage the ear."
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181HH@3100
199HH@2925
Serengeti bore rider with lots of freebore, 700LA, 26", 1:9tw
Shoots sweet!!!!!
Darkside
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Your 300 Wm, find a 200 to 220gr bullet that shoots good in your gun.
Partition, A-frame, bonded like Swift Scirocco, Accubond, Hot Cor,.......
Then practice, practice, practice at the yardage expected to shoot.
Hope this helps.
Partition, A-frame, bonded like Swift Scirocco, Accubond, Hot Cor,.......
Then practice, practice, practice at the yardage expected to shoot.
Hope this helps.
I dont reload! It shoots a 180 Trophy Copper sell.
Nothing wrong with 180 grain especially with a mono.
Darkside
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Thanks. I'll be 72 when I do it.My bad, I didn't read through all replys.
I wish you a successful hunt.
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Youngster...
One heck of a bucket list IMO! Keep us old geezers up to date!! Pulling hard for you!
Addicting
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Gibbs?
Pretty sure @RealMuddyboots is using standard .30-06 cases. It's the way the bore rider coupled with the added velocity potential of the Hammers that makes it work. mtmuley
Addicting
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With my Sherman and the 181 hammer I was shy of 3100 with the fast powders available. The throat was as far out as I could with still seating them. A standard case holds 6 grains less powder under those same throat conditions. A Gibbs case could get you to 3100 with RL26 but brass would be a 2 shot life span.
I'm sure he will be back with more info. He has similar results with heavy 270 loads. mtmuley
I will. I wont let physical issues get me down. Im seriously diabetic, my feet kill me every night from neuropathy, so I started biking 9 miles every other morning the last 6 months. Lost 9 lbs, and am down to 200lbs at 6'2". I leave in 3 weeks for an elk hunt in Central Montana. I get out there a month ahead of time to get used to the altitude. I love Montana. Takes me 4 days to drive up from Central Florida.Youngster...
One heck of a bucket list IMO! Keep us old geezers up to date!! Pulling hard for you!
Shot my 1st elk Oct 24 2022 and Im hooked. I found out in 2022 how big & heavy an elk is, so Ive since gotten a local outfitter. Great people. Last Nov got a bull at 333 yards, and a calf. Looking to get a 6x6 this year. Also have a cow tag. I love the people of Central Montana. Good people, nobody pretentous.
BTW, wehave a guy at elk camp that is 78 and still hunting.
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