.25 Creed! But Why?

[Forkyfinder]

I knew the howa 1500 was but didn’t know the vanguard was

Ah they arent. My bad.

 

[std7mag]

Yet for as long as it's been around as a popular wildcat no major manufacturer of firearms or ammunition has chosen to legitimize the 6.5-06.

A-Square submitted their drawings for SAAMI approval for the 6.5-06 A-Square, in 1997.

 

[std7mag]

As far as @Potsie question.

The 25-30TC (25CM) is SAAMI speced with a faster twist rate than the old standard 25 caliber twist rate of 1:10. Meaning you can stabilize heavier bullets.
Otherwise it would top out on the 120gr bullets that the 1:10 does.

So people that don't (or aren't into) custom built rifles can get one over the counter.

Buy a prefit barrel with a 1:7.5 twist and screw it onto a Savage action in 250AI, and you would have a ballistic twin.

Put a 1:7.5 twist barrel on a 257 Roberts AI or a 25-06, and it's an entirely different beast!

As for why 25 caliber over 6, or 6.5mm?
For some unknown reason the 25 caliber seems to kill above what it's caliber would suggest.

 

[Sheltowee]

.Put a 1:7.5 twist barrel on a 257 Roberts AI or a 25-06, and it's an entirely different beast!

Ballistically, the 25-6.5PRC wildcat is equivalent to a fast-twist 25-06 with the added advantage of modern chamber/case design and ability to fit in a short action. That’s the next build on my wishlist.

 

[antelopedundee]

A-Square submitted their drawings for SAAMI approval for the 6.5-06 A-Square, in 1997.

Agreed and I think they even offered some ammo and had cases so headstamped. No ammo offered from Remington, Federal or Winchester that I ever heard. No commercially made rifles either. Quality Cartridge offered/s brass headstamped 6.5mm-06, but I don't know if they still produce it.

The 6.5-06 A Square doesn't show up on the SAAMI info that I have available.

 

[antelopedundee]

As far as @Potsie question.

The 25-30TC (25CM) is SAAMI speced with a faster twist rate than the old standard 25 caliber twist rate of 1:10. Meaning you can stabilize heavier bullets.
Otherwise it would top out on the 120gr bullets that the 1:10 does.

So people that don't (or aren't into) custom built rifles can get one over the counter.

Buy a prefit barrel with a 1:7.5 twist and screw it onto a Savage action in 250AI, and you would have a ballistic twin.

Put a 1:7.5 twist barrel on a 257 Roberts AI or a 25-06, and it's an entirely different beast!

As for why 25 caliber over 6, or 6.5mm?
For some unknown reason the 25 caliber seems to kill above what it's caliber would suggest.

I have a 25 x 284 that I had made in about 1992. It has a 12 twist barrel. Took it out a few weeks ago and it shot 117 grain Sierras about as well as it did Barnes 80gr TTSX. I recently picked up a few Lapua 6.5 x 284 cases and they chambered as is in my rifle.

 

[GlockZ]

It's OK to own more than one gun though, right? I've got several guns chambered in the same cartridge. How useful is that? If we only cared about what worked, we'd all shoot '06s and that lame .270 would have never seen the light of day. Talking about a shady sales pitch.

IDK. Maybe some of you are limited in what you can own by one entity or another. Thankfully I can fill the safes as much as I want.

Yeah it's fine to own as many as you want, and whatever caliber you want. I personally try to keep different calibers that are significantly different from each other, i.e.- 30-06, .35 Rem, 6.8W, .338WM. & of course .223/5.56. I just don't see the advantage of certain calibers when compared to others, but then I hunt and don't do PRS or anything. Maybe if I did, I would seek those minuscule advantages.