Blacktail Slayer
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Now that went good with my dinner;yumm.Have seen alot of similar pictures where the cow elk had the fetus eaten right out of them.Maybe you should post those pictures on an animal lovers sight and see what they think of their cuddly wolves.I doubt any have a clue what they really do,
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That's what wolves do.... They kill stuff and eat stuff. It's kind of what they have done for as long as they've been around.
I'm failing to see how wolves being wolves makes wolf advocates inhumane and criminal. Did these advocates kill your cow and calves?
Just because you don't like someone's opinion doesn't mean they aren't entitled to it (sadly). And just because someone takes the opposite stand than you doesn't make them criminal.
I see the argument, that without the wolf advocates there would be less wolves (perhaps you want NO wolves??) and thus, with less wolves the cow never would have died? Pretty lame argument in my opinion. That's life. Shit happens. Cows die. If not the wolves, then some stoned hippy from Ashland who decides animal sacrifice needs to make a righteous comeback.
That's what wolves do.... They kill stuff and eat stuff. It's kind of what they have done for as long as they've been around.
I'm failing to see how wolves being wolves makes wolf advocates inhumane and criminal. Did these advocates kill your cow and calves?
Just because you don't like someone's opinion doesn't mean they aren't entitled to it (sadly). And just because someone takes the opposite stand than you doesn't make them criminal.
I see the argument, that without the wolf advocates there would be less wolves (perhaps you want NO wolves??) and thus, with less wolves the cow never would have died? Pretty lame argument in my opinion. That's life. Shit happens. Cows die. If not the wolves, then some stoned hippy from Ashland who decides animal sacrifice needs to make a righteous comeback.
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Coyotes, lions, bears, dogs cars all kill way more cattle in Oregon that wolves. It's not a good thing when the cattle is yours. There are things to mitigate the situation. I hope those ranchers try them. It might be worth the effort. Wolves are here to stay, you don't even have enough to worry about.........Yet!
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I don't think that is the argument.
The irony (hipocrisy?) of the enviros argument is that they want to ban hunting because it is "cruel", yet are perfectly fine with wolves, as you put it, "doing what they do." That may very well fly in the enviros' heads, but an elk knows no difference in a wolf or a bullet, and most of time a bullet is much more humane.
I think the point in the OP is that if the enviros truely cared about animal suffering, they never would have advocated for the introduction of a predator as viscious as a wolf.
Now, we hunters know that nature is cruel and that virtually no animals in nature "die peacefully of old age" like many urbanites want to believe. In the animal world, you either starve/freeze to death or are killed by a predator.
Sorry man, but I don't think that's the argument being made at all. How did you reach that conclusion? You're extrapolating a lot out of a little. No mention was made of "enviros" or their philosophies towards hunting or how much they care about animals. I just don't see how you came to that conclusion, without using a lot of your own opinions.
Agree to disagree I guess.
Following strictly what was posted all I see is the a line being drawn between wolf advocates and cow fatalities. With no apparent supporting evidence other than a few graphic photos. Too ME it seems to be suggesting that wolf advocates=living wolves=dead cows, with no mention of "cruel" deaths or "dying peacefully.."
I agree with some of what you've said... but I think your logic is way off base.
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