My father shot this bull last year, first season rifle in CO. This isn't the biggest bull, nor the most impressive, but he is very symmetrical and had a huge body on him. He was taken with a Winchester Model 70 .243 Winchester with a 85gr Nobler Partition at 350 yards. Some might say that anything under a 270 is too light of caliber for elk. Well, I would disagree. All it takes is a well placed shot and a whole lot of confidence in your gun and shooting skills. After all, all you gotta do is poke a hole in the right spot and that tag is filled. The bullet definitely did its job. The bullet was found opposite of the entrance wound, lodged on the inside right up against the skin. 1 inch away from a complete pass through. The bull only went 40yds before piling up. It was a double lung shot.