Bullhound, you are right, it probably wasnt appropriate of me to bring ATV's into a wolf discussion...
Now that your are a full time forum cop, please deliver the same message to the other 1500 or so members who all do the same thing.
However, I've seen a direct correlation between lack of hunting success and bitching about wolves...they go hand in hand. The same as most unsuccessful hunters and their lack of ambition. Most with no ambition are the ones that buy machines looking for an edge. In particular the lazy ATV crowd who get an elk about every ten years or so. They never think ripping down every road in the country, shooting at elk from the roads (no matter how far away they are), etc. isnt a problem...its those damn wolves ruining hunting. I have to chuckle at that.
As far as your concern with the folks of weippe, orifino, etc. its pretty apparent they need to get out of the bars once in a while. I have a very good friend who grew up in Weippe, he graduated highschool, hitched a ride out of town, went to gunsmithing school, and has a successful business in Missoula Montana, he's never looked back.
I'd guess that all those people in those small Idaho towns are all really well educated, have a great grasp of the world, and understand subjects like wildlife biology and forest management. Most were born there, will die there, and live in a fishbowl their entire lives. They hate the gummint because Grandpappy and Pappy did.
They find one dead elk and immediately the wolves are to blame for every elk fatality in Idaho...its bullshit.
You can get pissed and whine all you want, but the truth is the truth. I guarantee that mountain lions kill far more elk and deer in Idaho than wolves, probably by at least a 50-1 margin. Yet, I dont hear anyone whine about that...funny how that works??? For that matter, I wouldnt be suprised theres more elk wounded and lost by hunters than wolves kill.
Besides all that, what really ticks guys like you off, is that people like me an Ithaca are winning big in these battles...while you pout. Get over it Bullhound and be prepared for more of the same.