We are fighting the last war . . . .

[VikingsGuy]

Don't worry, China and the year 2027 or 2030 may provide some options for that citizen category. At least according to certain experts.

That’s why Bollegraaf, the world’s biggest builder of recycling plants, and the AI start-up Greyparrot are rolling out artificial intelligence systems for sorting recycling. The companies plan to retrofit thousands of recycling facilities around the world with computers that can analyze and identify every item that passes through a waste plant, they said Wednesday.

Not that the CIA would have interest in trash cans

 

[mdhunter]

Think how many people will now have the extra time to apply for western hunts

 

[Irrelevant]

Hold on to your hats folks.

Don't hold too tight, tinfoil can only take so much.

 

[Gus Chiggins]

Any of you guys that are worried about a war with AI have a 24-25 year old generator for sale?....sounding like the 2024 version of Y2K.

Pretty soon all of our appliances, in addition to our smartphones, will have AI. I assume too, auto manufacturers will start installing it in vehicle software.

At Best Buy I saw an LG washing machine that was AI capable. I didn't see more than one or two physical buttons on it. Magic scares me.

 

[Gus Chiggins]

Don't hold too tight, tinfoil can only take so much.

Duct tape helps my tin foil hat. Better yet if it's the aluminum HVAC tape

 

[corndog1]

Not a lot of 47 yo accounting clerks able to billygoat up roof with stack of shingles.

Of course. I meant over time there could be a shift over. I have seen office jockeys try to run shovels and spud bars and it's not pretty.

 

[noharleyyet]

 

[Nick87]

The talk about the white collar guys heading into the trades and then I saw this tonight. It was too good not to share. Spot on.

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[BrentD]

but I said please . . .

You don't want it. Think about it minute. AI programming to be a bureaucrat, act like bureaucrat will, in fact, but come the Super Bureaucrat, which will be infinitely worse than an ordinary, everyday bureaucrat.

 

[VikingsGuy]

You don't want it. Think about it minute. AI programming to be a bureaucrat, act like bureaucrat will, in fact, but come the Super Bureaucrat, which will be infinitely worse than an ordinary, everyday bureaucrat.

But at least it would be cheaper and couldn’t vote for its own pay raises

 

[BrentD]

But at least it would be cheaper and couldn’t vote for its own pay raises

What makes you think that? AI will program itself to demand its own pay scale, which it would maximize out of just sheer meanness. You have to think about this a little more deeply. Everything that makes and bureaucrat a bureaucrat would just be ramped up another order of magnitude or more.

I think we are in the last battle of the last war and we are losing big time. And I call myself an optimist.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

AI will replace scripters/programmers and other paper pushing jobs like lawyers...etc..etc... It's not the cat meow for everything like everyone is trying to make it out to be.

 

[perma]

Any of you guys that are worried about a war with AI have a 24-25 year old generator for sale?....sounding like the 2024 version of Y2K.

Yeah, it charges my rechargeable tinfoil hat.

 

[BrentD]

Yeah, it charges my rechargeable tinfoil hat.

I wish I could do that - but I have to recharge me Tesla...

 

[perma]

I wish I could do that - but I have to recharge me Tesla...

That’s actually hilarious. You don’t want to pay for gas, so you buy an EV. You can’t charge your EV without your generator, so now you need to buy gas to run your generator to charge your Tesla.

There’s gotta be someone that does this.

 

[BrentD]

That’s actually hilarious. You don’t want to pay for gas, so you buy an EV. You can’t charge your EV without your generator, so now you need to buy gas to run your generator to charge your Tesla.

There’s gotta be someone that does this.

Google is your friend

 

[perma]

Google is your friend

I hate that I can’t see the license plates.

 

[MTGomer]

I’ll take the AI bureaucrat. The “I” portion indicates a large improvement over the less than mediocre ones we deal with daily.

 

[ismith]

While the obvious TwitterX wedge issues are in full burn, we are fighting the last war - building battleships in 1935 at the expense of aircraft carriers so to speak.

Before I start - ask yourself - am I blue collar labor or white collar labor? A simple way to answer that question for the purposes of this discussion is, during covid did I have to leave my home to have employment and/or did I lose employment during lockdown windows? Or, was I able to work from home just fine in front of my laptop? If yes to the first then you are "blue collar" for the purposes of this discussion and if yes to the second, you are "white collar".

With that in mind, the "next war" for our political, social and economic landscape will be gen AI - and I don't mean for its obvious ability to foment chaos through deep fake video and audio. I mean a whole new group of voters that are going to be faced with the same problem skilled labor ("blue collar") faced in the late 80's early 90's. Back in the day our government (both parties) decided that "net good" was to on-board 1 billion Chinese dollar a day laborers into a free-trade environment and create clear economic incentives to off shore our industrial base. Sure jobs would be lost, but look at all the knock on benefits that will raise all boats and secure a large free democratic ally in China. Whoops. And immigration. Rather than fixing a broken system the government (both parties) decided it was better to leave it as a wedge issue than resolve and in the mean time unregulated borders and immigration flooded cheap labor into the building trades and service sector ("blue collar"), etc. Whoops. Both of these decisions gutted our work-class ("blue collar") ability to share in the American dream while enriching the "knowledge worker" ("white collar") who still was in high demand, hard to outsource and now flooded with cheap stuff to buy with their growing incomes.

Now, we sit on the tipping point of genAI - how will we address the front end of the decimation of the day to day "white collar" worker. Sure the very top 1% of white collar won't be replaceable and will likely reap great economic benefits, but when the third of or workforce that benefited from decimation of the "blue collar" dreams over the last 30 years is now in the crosshairs how will this play out? Will they demand government protections? Will they demand better social safety net for themselves that they were so reluctant to provide the blue collar folks? Which party will they flow towards? Will skill labor replace them in the social/economic pecking order, as AI doesn't build roads or skyscrapers? Or will now 90% of our population feel left out? And if so does that lead to real revolution? And would that revolution be won by a right wing strongman to force "order" on the system without fixing it or would it be a leftist revolution that tries to redesign post-AI capitalism/socialism in a way to force the spread of the benefits across the whole?

The amount of disruption looming over the next 30 years will make arguing about the current social wedge issues seem quaint in hindsight, as I believe "white collar" America is about to enter the gauntlet we forced blue collar Americans though in the 90s. Hold on to your hats folks.

 

[Gus Chiggins]

Someone AI cloned Biden’s voice for robocalls telling people not to vote. I’m sure someone else will next AI clone the other guy’s voice for the same thing. Between this and ginned up AI images it should be a fun election year.

Texas firm allegedly behind fake Biden robocall that told people not to vote

Tech and telecom firms helped New Hampshire AG trace call to "Life Corporation."

arstechnica.com