In your utopia who is doing this??
Eh, I kinda have a hobbesian outlook on the world. So to be clear there is a huge difference between what I believe will happen - what I will advocate for - and what I am interested in hypothesizing about. I engage in these discussions, because I like to pose a question and then hear peoples reasoning for various opinions. I'm a moderate pragmatist and I share many of your's and others complaints with various politicians and their proposals.
Sometimes I think this gets lost of folks here; my argument is that "Gun reform" as a broad topic is problematic. There are constitutional issues, their are practical issues ( how would you even get rid of 300 million guns/ enforcement issues/etc.), and there are political issues (lots of people want guns for protection and sporting purposes and vote accordingly). Therefore I am pro 2A, but at same time recognize that there are in fact gun problems, high murder rates, suicide rates, mass shootings etc.
I like many others are interested in
thinking about how you tackle these problems; what are the conditions that create them, and how to you change those conditions. Mental health is something thing that is discussed a lot, so is criminals won't follow laws. Therefore I think the conversation very inevitably turns to how do we address mental health, how do we address crime.
Lots of economic research has looked at the cost of prescriptive solutions versus punitive solutions. So in the long term is it cheaper for society to keep someone from becoming a criminal (education, economic dev, etc) or cheaper to just arrest them and lock them up. A lot of the research seems to suggest the former.
An example of how it might work out... it costs society $1,000,000 when someone murder someone; to catch them, to prosecute them, and then to incarcerate them. So if 10 people commit murders and are put in jail that might cost us $10,000,000 over the offenders lifetime. If instead of spending this $10,000,000 on just reacting to a crime and instead we spend money on various measures to help people avoid a life of crime, say, for instance, we spend $1,000,000 on those 10 people over the course of their lifetimes; on schooling (college or trade school), better healthcare, helping find opportunities, whatever... (so $100,000 per person) perhaps, maybe you keep 3 of those 10 people from becoming murders. So that's $7,000,000 in cost because of those that became murders despite your best efforts + $1,000,000 in your initial investment on prescriptive solutions. In the end you spent $8,000,000 instead of $10,000,000. So therefore it's actually $2,000,000 cheaper to spend the money on sending people to trade school or whatever for free.
Therefore, I postulated per another HT member's request on what might be a pragmatic solution to some of the issues surrounding guns, that 1. actually work and/or 2. aren't just gun bans.
I'm not painting a utopia, I am suggesting maybe we need to change the way we think about problems, and address them proactively rather than re-actively, with the knowledge that we won't know if we were right or wrong for 20-30 years.
Honestly, I don't take umbrage with anyone on the forum shooting holes in anything I suggest, that's the whole reason I post. I legitimately want to hear the criticism. If some of my ideas seem half baked it's because they are, "peer review" is part of the process of a good idea right?
At the same time there is a necessarily level of respect required to have this kind of discourse and if various people are just going to name call and attack people personally I'm just going to post poop emojis, as those two things have the same relative value.
When there is no profit the labor/design/material/etc sum of all were to high. See the management that assures profit assures the costs are inline.
That's a good point. In the case of medicine I'm interested in the insurance, medical equipment and executive management side of the equation. I don't think provider compensation, the "labor force"
@VikingsGuy alluded is the issue, or where you could save money. I'm just not sure if a for profit insurance industry helps anyone? (because I literally don't know, like how is that system better than say medicare or the veterans system
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Not a liberal not a conservative, just a guy who is interested in the best way of solving problems and who thinks the bible has some great advice about how you should treat people.
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