USFS bid to salvage log windfall in Idaho and Montana

[44hunter45]

Wondering if the opponents have actually been in the woods and seen the tangles from the recent wind damage. ?
Good for forest management and good for the elk. I have no problem with this one.

https://www.dnews.com/local-news/forest-service-unveils-massive-salvage-logging-project-e6f68eac

 

[TheTone]

The amount of blowdown in some areas is insane. I wonder though how they are going to designate areas for salvage and do things anywhere close to timely if speed is part of the real concern.

I can look at one of our local fire salvage log operations as a good example of being no where close to timely. By the end of that project I was told by the forester the logs were worthless but required to be cut anyways as per the contract. That area is in many ways worse off than it was before with the amount of slash that was left behind. I’m confident some of the hillsides will not have a person walk across them in my lifetime due to the amount of stuff left

 

[BAKPAKR]

A couple North Idaho trails I hiked recently had several sections blocked by windfalls. I walked up on a goat that was licking salt left from sweaty people crossing a windfall.

 

[Bonasababy]

True salvage or an excuse to cut the good wood that didnt go down? Can be a great or very bad thing depending on how its done.

 

[TheTone]

True salvage or an excuse to cut the good wood that didnt go down? Can be a great or very bad thing depending on how its done.

Typically isn’t hard to walk the edges of a logging job and find a few big stumps outside the cutting boundary.

 

[mtmuley]

True salvage or an excuse to cut the good wood that didnt go down? Can be a great or very bad thing depending on how its done.

We should tie it up with red tape instead of cutting what can be saved. mtmuley

 

[INMT]

It’s already happening in my neck of the woods in NW MT. Logging just finished last winter so not sure if their contract was still current.

Glad they’re doing it because slash or no slash that shit was unnavigable in its current state of blowdown.

 

[INMT]

We should tie it up with red tape instead of cutting what can be saved. mtmuley

#letitrot

 

[mtmuley]

#letitrot

Not a big emoji or hashtag guy. mtmuley

 

[INMT]

Not a big emoji or hashtag guy. mtmuley

Sorry good sir. I will remember from now on.

 

[mtmuley]

Sorry good sir. I will remember from now on.

Thank you good sir. mtmuley

 

[BigHornRam]

We should tie it up with red tape instead of cutting what can be saved. mtmuley

Fire up the chainsaw and cut some fire wood, mtmuley. Just leave the piss fir for Bonasababy to burn.

 

[Forkyfinder]

True salvage or an excuse to cut the good wood that didnt go down? Can be a great or very bad thing depending on how its done.

Assuming the worst of what you say is true - would it be better or worse off than current state? Long and short term?

Theres some wild blowdown this year in MT from the spring we had - to the point that access through it becomes challenging to be possible - independent of time consuming. It isnt capable of sustaining much wildlife when its widespread.

 

[BigHornRam]

Assuming the worst of what you say is true - would it be better or worse off than current state? Long and short term?

Theres some wild blowdown this year in MT from the spring we had - to the point that access through it becomes challenging to be possible - independent of time consuming. It isnt capable of sustaining much wildlife when its widespread.

When the blow down dries out, it burns real good. So the good live wood that is right next to it that Bonasababy is worried about, burns too.

 

[lastlight]

The wind storm this winter was a once in a lifetime event IMO. I can’t access most of my hunting areas on N Idaho. Green timber giants uprooted in large swaths like someone dropped a nuke. The USFS local employee said don’t expect this mess to be cleared in the next decade basically. I’ve spent several days sawing my way into remote areas and it’s going to take many more days if ever. I’m actually considering hunting southern Idaho for the first time for elk.

I don’t see how any logging operation would tackle the areas I’m talking about, especially foot only trail systems. The sheer mass of trees it would take every logger on deck and a few years work in this area.