study done on Isle Royale National Park after NPS and MDNR transplant wolves

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#IsleRoyale | Wolves Jump 23% as Moose Crash —
Michigan Tech researchers just wrapped up their winter survey, reporting the island's wolf population has reached 37.
That's a 23% increase from the last count and the highest number since the late 1970s.
The moose population is seeing the exact opposite trend, dropping 75% since 2019 down to 524 animals. For the first time in nearly 70 years, the team didn't spot a single moose calf.

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The Feds & state could have saved all of the money they spent bringing in wolves to control the moose population on the island by simply creating a special hunting season. The amount that people would have been willing to pay would have been incredible.

Now they'll have to figure out a way to reduce the wolf population or let them starve THEN reintroduce moose by air lifting them in.

The wheels on the bus go round & round.
 
The Feds & state could have saved all of the money they spent bringing in wolves to control the moose population on the island by simply creating a special hunting season. The amount that people would have been willing to pay would have been incredible.

Now they'll have to figure out a way to reduce the wolf population or let them starve THEN reintroduce moose by air lifting them in.

The wheels on the bus go round & round.
That would be a unique hunt for sure.
 
Be real interesting what happens if they eat themselves out of house and home. Cant be fun to have to take down full sized moose with your teeth after all the calves are killed. I recall a study from SE AK recently where they wolves were largely living off of sea otters after they wiped out the blacktail deer population. I know they ate quite a few beavers in N. MN where deer populations crashed - That doesn't jive with the "how wolves change rivers" story.
 
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Be real interesting what happens if they eat themselves out of house and home. Cant be fun to have to take down full sized moose with your teeth after all the calves are killed. I recall a study from SE AK recently where they wolves were largely living off of sea otters after they wiped out the blacktail deer population. I know they ate quite a few beavers in N. MN where deer populations crashed - That doesn't jive with the "how wolves change rivers" story.

Nature is bloody, cruel and violent.

Humans prefer cozy and cute.

Funny how we celebrate the lion taking down the wildebeest, but mourn the same thing at home.

Wildlife live and die by blood and violence. Swings in populations are part of the natural order, made by God. Places like Isle Royale remind us that not everything that is natural is easy or level.

Moose will die off, then the wolf population will follow. This is how he made it.
 
Nature is bloody, cruel and violent.

Humans prefer cozy and cute.

Funny how we celebrate the lion taking down the wildebeest, but mourn the same thing at home.

Wildlife live and die by blood and violence. Swings in populations are part of the natural order, made by God. Places like Isle Royale remind us that not everything that is natural is easy or level.

Moose will die off, then the wolf population will follow. This is how he made it.
The problem is...man interfered with the natural process on the Isle. Not God's hand or natural process.
 
The first pack became so inbreed the pack died off from not being able to reproduce. How long until these two packs have the same issue?
 
Wait a second, here in Colorado we have been told on numerous occasions from esteemed “non-profits” that the “peer-reviewed, best available science” tells us that all carnivores are completely self-regulating and therefore it is impossible for them to exceed carrying capacity and crash prey populations.

**extreme sarcasm**
 
Ask your so called governor to walk one on a lease for a day ! If shem is not to busy trying to put her boat in the water ahead of everyone else in line !!!
 
Nature is bloody, cruel and violent.

Humans prefer cozy and cute.

Funny how we celebrate the lion taking down the wildebeest, but mourn the same thing at home.

Wildlife live and die by blood and violence. Swings in populations are part of the natural order, made by God. Places like Isle Royale remind us that not everything that is natural is easy or level.

Moose will die off, then the wolf population will follow. This is how he made it.

It's Okay to cheer for both the lion and the wildebeest. In this case, the moose wants to live as much as the wolf does and I want both to succeed, however the success of one usually means the demise of the other. That being said, the moose made their way there on their own while the wolves were introduced.

Also, since you brought it up, which God would that be? In any case, none of them have anything to do with any of this.
 
It's Okay to cheer for both the lion and the wildebeest. In this case, the moose wants to live as much as the wolf does and I want both to succeed, however the success of one usually means the demise of the other. That being said, the moose made their way there on their own while the wolves were introduced.

Also, since you brought it up, which God would that be? In any case, none of them have anything to do with any of this.

I don't care who you pray too, buddy.

Who said man isn't part of this? Our entire history is replete with man's hand from tribes using fire to the propagation of animals for food - we are an integral part of this world.
 
As has been pointed out, the island has not historically been able to sustain wolf populations. I'm not saying the wolf study has no academic value, but it's strange to use a national park of all places to carry out this totally artificial experiment in population control.
 
As has been pointed out, the island has not historically been able to sustain wolf populations. I'm not saying the wolf study has no academic value, but it's strange to use a national park of all places to carry out this totally artificial experiment in population control.
Not sure how you define historically but the island has had wolves and moose for a long time. Research on their relationship going back to the late 1950s I believe, started by Durward Allen and carried on by his students.

Climate change and many years with no ice bridge to the mainland started to influence that.

They had a chance to let that change play itself out and document what happens...which would have been a very powerful, impactful story I believe....but instead decided to intervene.
 
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