Step up your Dad game boys..

[warmer]

Hell, we got two wild Charolais bulls been trying to get caught for two years, couldn’t get them out of the brush and in the pens with horses, dogs and a chopper. Could probably arrange a free range hunt if anyone is interested…no horns though

When I was a kid, the neighbor had pasture about 3 miles from his house. Every spring we would herd them down the road to pasture and every fall herd them back. He had about 100 cow/calf pairs and 4 or 5 of them were Charolais, if we had a goat rope along the way them b*****rds were apart of it.

 

[BuzzH]

I really don't understand why people are so offended by high fence hunting. I'm neither for, nor against it, and personally, I would never do it. But why are people so upset by what others do with their money? I see it as no different than buying a steer for butcher. Putting it bluntly, like cattle, those deer are raised to die.
Is it just the image that it gives to what we call fair chase hunting, or is it an issue of wealth and jealousy? I honestly dont know, I've just never been offended or bothered by what some people do that makes them happy.

This is not a fighting comment, simply just my thoughts. I'll keep trudging along to shoot spikes and bambis, and be happy doing it.

Just substitute hunting for Everest.

• Yvon Chouinard: Taking a trip for six months to get in the rhythm of it. It feels like you can go on forever doing that. Climbing Everest is the ultimate and the opposite of that. Because you get these high powered plastic surgeons and CEO's, they pay $80,000 and have sherpas put the ladders in place and 8000 feet of fixed ropes and you get to the camp and you don't even have to lay out your sleeping bag. It's already laid out with a chocolate mint on the top. The whole purpose of planning something like Everest is to effect some sort of spiritual and physical gain and if you compromise the process, you're an asshole when you start out and you're an asshole when you get back.

 

[Ben Lamb]

The whole purpose of planning something like Everest is to effect some sort of spiritual and physical gain and if you compromise the process, you're an asshole when you start out and you're an asshole when you get back.

I still feel this way about pop-punk from the 90's.

 

[Irrelevant]

High fence hunting could not be less American. It is the antithesis of everything we claim to stand for.

 

[Dave N]

Yeah, that's like paying for a hooker instead of hitting the bars like the rest of us.

 

[Nick87]

I really don't understand why people are so offended by high fence hunting.

I think for me its when does hunting become shooting? Pulling the trigger is only a small part of the whole process and in the high fence situation that's pretty much the entire process. Imo.

 

[Gerald Martin]

I think for me its when does hunting become shooting? Pulling the trigger is only a small part of the whole process and in the high fence situation that's pretty much the entire process. Imo.

I have an idea for a niche market. Introduce grizzlies into the high fence enclosure and then let folks hunt it. They can only shoot a bear in self defense and it will cost them $25k if they do.

Step up your dad game!

 

[Nick87]

I have an idea for a niche market. Introduce grizzlies into the high fence enclosure and then let folks hunt it. They can only shoot a bear in self defense and it will cost them $25k if they do.

Step up your dad game!

I like it.

 

[RealMuddyboots]

Then the 10MM arguments become real.!

 

[BenP]

I really don't understand why people are so offended by high fence hunting. I'm neither for, nor against it, and personally, I would never do it. But why are people so upset by what others do with their money? I see it as no different than buying a steer for butcher. Putting it bluntly, like cattle, those deer are raised to die.
Is it just the image that it gives to what we call fair chase hunting, or is it an issue of wealth and jealousy? I honestly dont know, I've just never been offended or bothered by what some people do that makes them happy.

This is not a fighting comment, simply just my thoughts. I'll keep trudging along to shoot spikes and bambis, and be happy doing it.

For me it is not jealousy at all, it's a matter of definition really and the image that goes with that.

Why do hunters hate the "hunters" that go out and illegally kill animals and that when it gets posted by the news they are called hunters? Because they are poachers not hunters and we don't want people to associate that the two are the same.

Why do athletes hate "athletes" that go on to win a trophy because they are allowed to play in their "gender"? Because they are not really a female and so they shouldn't be associated as the same sex and the same. He is just a dude that really sucks at the sport if he played against his real gender.

So yeah, true hunters take offense when someone claims that that they are "hunters" when they are doing nothing more than target shooting on a real animal that is claimed to be a trophy because they nurtured it to have large antlers that frankly don't look anything like their wild counterparts.

 

[Gerald Martin]

How do you know that buck didn’t identify as a high country forked horn….?

 

[SaskHunter]

I really don't understand why people are so offended by high fence hunting. I'm neither for, nor against it, and personally, I would never do it. But why are people so upset by what others do with their money? I see it as no different than buying a steer for butcher. Putting it bluntly, like cattle, those deer are raised to die.
Is it just the image that it gives to what we call fair chase hunting, or is it an issue of wealth and jealousy? I honestly dont know, I've just never been offended or bothered by what some people do that makes them happy.

This is not a fighting comment, simply just my thoughts. I'll keep trudging along to shoot spikes and bambis, and be happy doing it.

We're not upset, we think it's ridiculous, sad and misleading to the general hunting public.

It has nothing to do with jealousy or wealth issues/envy. It's literally the same as going into a pasture and shooting a cow. Those whitetailed deer are cattle that happen to be the same specie as deer that roam free, but they are simply not the same nor is it hunting. There is zero skills, or luck, involved. It's all about buying the illusion of being a great hunter and having antlers on the wall to boast about.

I can pay the Hutterites a couple thousand bucks and go shoot a cow in a pasture, does that make me a hunter? I would be ridiculed on social media (I would hope anyway), if I gripped and grinned over a dead cow. A lot of people can afford a 2k "cow hunt", would it make them a jealous bunch if they ridiculed me for doing so?

I hate what hunting has turned into and in turn what it's doing to MY hunting. The illusion of great "hunts", either high fenced or Deseret Ranch style, are posing rich guys as great hunters and encouraging more and more "influenceable people" to jump in and take part in the hunting rat race; everything to get an animal and the ultimate social media post! It's all BS and it's Okay to call it what it is.

@BuzzH's analogy with Everest is spot on!

 

[MTGomer]

Regardless of how lame it is to “hunt” a high fence animal, there is just something wrong about pen raising wild species. It’s like seeing a grizzly bear in a penned enclosure. It’s gross with or without the “hunting” part.

 

[smw110136]

Having hunted in grizz country several times and yet to see more than tracks and cached meals, I told my kids before my bow hunt in September that I hoped to see one in Wyoming (at a distance). They couldn't believe I'd never seen one before and my four year old asks "not even in the zoo?" My response was "that doesn't really count." Guess that would sum up my feeling on high fence hunts. I don't care that people hunt high fence, but don't pretend its some record book animal or you had to work hard to succeed. It doesn't really count.

 

[gouch]

It would be fine if they just didn't insist on calling it hunting. We don't call it hunting when the guy from the butcher shop comes out to the farm to slaughter a steer or a hog.

About the only difference is the butcher wears an apron and rubber boots instead of expensive camo and he doesn't post grip and grin photos on his social media.

 

[BuzzH]

We've watered down the hunting experience and adventure of it even outside the high fences, IMO.

In my lifetime sheep hunting for example has gone from 21+ day hunts to 10-14 days. That's a big change from just prior to when I started hunting, when sheep hunting was a couple month long deal. That took commitment to pursue an animal for a couple months.

I think we're robbing ourselves of the best parts of hunting by making it easier and easier all the time. I think "success", in killing an animal, just comes too easy.

 

[Irrelevant]

Regardless of how lame it is to “hunt” a high fence animal, there is just something wrong about pen raising wild species. It’s like seeing a grizzly bear in a penned enclosure. It’s gross with or without the “hunting” part.

I feel the same way about our house cat. While I can't stand cats, and hate how many birds they kill, it feels inhumane to keep a creature locked up so I kick his ass out and let him have a shred of freedom.

I haven't been to a zoo in decades. People who enjoy seeing primates, bears, cats, elephants, etc, at the zoo are ethically (morally?) deficient.

 

[NoWiser]

I think "success", in killing an animal, just comes too easy.

Yeah, unfortunately some of us don’t seem to have that “problem.”