Shoot farther!

[Hilljackoutlaw]

For $1000s they will teach you to kill from 1 mile away.

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[BAKPAKR]

I don’t think I have a good enough beard to attend.

 

[Jnasa]

I'm all for improving marksmanship. I cringe when I see "classes" encouraging people to shoot further at game.

Hopefully there is a ethics portion that takes a significant portion of the class.

 

[JohnBud]

Perhaps they should learn to be better hunters so that they can get close enough to make an ethical shot.

 

[Redmt]

If you can't make the shot, don't take the shot.
That's the saying that got me banned from lrh.

 

[BucksnDucks]

For $1000s they will teach you to kill from 1 mile away.

Something personal against these particular guys in the Bitterroot or just one of those days? Is it the class or price tag?

 

[Bigjay73]

Something personal against these particular guys in the Bitterroot or just one of those days? Is it the class or price tag?

I mean, he could be promoting them. How you decipher it depends what kind of day you're having i suppose.

 

[BucksnDucks]

I mean, he could be promoting them. How you decipher it depends what kind of day you're having i suppose.

True. Quite a nuanced observation.

 

[Ben Lamb]

I'm all for people training to improve their skills, even out to and past 1,000 yards. I also advocate for hunting rather than lobbing lead at living targets. The two are not mutually exclusive, and in fact - the training improves the second aspect by creating a solid foundation for your lethality and understanding your weapon as well as your limitations and areas that need work.

I'd love to take one of these classes, personally. In our programs, we teach people how to be proficient out to 400 yards while encouraging them to also work on their hunting skills. The ethics portion is mission-critical to ensuring that people don't take shots they shouldn't, and we reduce wounding loss. I seein their advanced class they start to bring that in to the discussion.

I don't know these guys, but having been involved in enhanced hunter ed training from the instructor side for a few years now, it's not really a black and white thing but and educational opportunity where imparting the skillset and providing a path to proficiency have the outcomes of reducing wounding loss, leading to better decision making in the field.

We've all been around shitty ethics. Bullets whizzing by, seeing people flock-shoot elk, etc. While the barrier to entry here is prohibitive, the take-aways are worth it. All in all, $2K for a class like this isn't awful, especially given the level of education you are likely to recieve. It's cheaper than a new PRS setup, that's for sure.

 

[WVmike]

If your training is more difficult than what you may see in the moment, you will be better prepared and more proficient. With that being said shooting at an animal you are trying to recover for food and to ethically harvest it at the same time is different than shooting a target at extended range. In the Marine Corps we qualify with the m16/m4 out to 500 yards, is there much knock down power for 5.56 at that range? Probably not great and also you are trying to end another person's life depending on the situation not harvesting an animal. I'm all for training at further range to be more proficient at effective ranges but I'm more than likely not going to be the one that shoots from 1000 yards at an elk just to do it. I'd rather get in closer to put the odds more in my favor and favor the ballistics of whatever round I'm using.

 

[Chama Grande]

Lotta 'aspirational branding' going on here

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

Something personal against these particular guys in the Bitterroot or just one of those days? Is it the class or price tag?

I think the need and want to pursue better marksmanship is great. To market through the angle of killing from farther away is poor.

 

[CowboyLeroy]

BRO is #LEGAL just because you dont want to #HAMMER and do #WHATEVERITTAKES to #HARVEST a #PUBLICLAND #MONARCH like the #FIREBULL or any other #TOADS these dudes #LIVEFORTHEHUNT but anyway its all LEGAL MEANS OF TAKE BRO just like #LEAVEPEOPLEALONEBRO and dont be a #HATER just because you aren't #SICKFORIT.



Now that thats settled I wish you all a merry thursday.

 

[It’s Bucky]

Our last public land forky doesn’t stand a chance

 

[mtmuley]

Something personal against these particular guys in the Bitterroot or just one of those days? Is it the class or price tag?

He's got one Hell of a facility to pay for here. Wait...no he doesn't. mtmuley

 

[Nick87]

I echo a few above. I would love to be able to shoot that far. Can't see taking shots anything like that while hunting though.

 

[INMT]

Something personal against these particular guys in the Bitterroot or just one of those days? Is it the class or price tag?

Maybe more long range shooting vs long range hunting. I think it’s more of an ethical thing and how shots can quickly go south from long range.

It’s one thing for lifetime trained shooters and snipers but to market the class for hunters and not comp shooters is dicey. Too many new social media hunters think that’s what hunting is.

Folks of an older age class that grew up hunting and were taught woodsmen skills and how to get close to animals, which is what hunting is, or people trained by that era of hunters don’t agree with the long range bs.

Call me old school or call me ethical.

 

[mtmuley]

Maybe more long range shooting vs long range hunting. I think it’s more of an ethical thing and how shots can quickly go south from long range.

It’s one thing for lifetime trained shooters and snipers but to market the class for hunters and not comp shooters is dicey. Too many new social media hunters think that’s what hunting is.

Folks of an older age class that grew up hunting and were taught woodsmen skills and how to get close to animals, which is what hunting is, or people trained by that era of hunters don’t agree with the long range bs.

Call me old school or call me ethical.

This argument has been going on for a long, long, long time. I once was convinced I needed to kill at long range. I'm over it. Do what you want. And if Snowy makes money, good for them. mtmuley

 

[Pagosa]

These "Bro" guys are suffering from a serious vagina drought

 

[mtmuley]

These "Bro" guys are suffering from a serious vagina drought

Huh? mtmuley