Relax, Everything is Going to be Okay!

[BuzzH]

You don't know either. You just believe a theory that the consumer always pays.

Yes, I do know, and so does anyone else that's take a single economics course.

 

[406dn]

The logic that leads to Hilary being able to get away with multiple murders but not beating Trump in an election is shocking.

More illogical is Hillary was not clever enough to steal the election from Trump, but sleepy Joe was.

There will be millions who go to their grave believing Trump's lie about 2020 being a stolen election.

 

[Nick87]

More illogical is Hillary was not clever enough to steal the election from Trump, but sleepy Joe was

Regardless if you thought an election was stolen (or rigged or whatever) I cant imagine anyone thinking Joe Biden had much of anything to do with it. That seems crazy.

 

[jimh406]

Yes, I do know, and so does anyone else that's take a single economics course.

You might like this article. They go into the details on the different possibilities.

https://taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/what-tariff-and-who-pays-it

OK, so the importer remits the tariff to its nation’s customs service, but who really pays the tax on imported goods? The answer, I am sorry to say is, it depends.

 

[jimh406]

Regardless if you thought an election was stolen (or rigged ornehatever) I cant imagine anyone thinking Joe Biden had much of anything to do with it. That seems crazy.

I don't think Biden was part of it either.

Some believe Biden got the most votes in history before and after. That seems unlikely, so what other explanations are there?

 

[Wind Gypsy]

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I guess I didn’t take it as those things all being definitively connected to each other but rather a number of happenings that could reasonably be tied to the dark world of Epstein and associates.

That said I can’t read the first sentence of that post in hindsight and argue that your interpretation of it isn’t also reasonable.

 

[mtmiller]

There is a quote from Robert Downy Jr in Tropic Thunder that would be sage advice for a few on this thread. IYKYK

Never go full

 

[MTGomer]

Picked up a new UAV for work today.

$441 line item on my invoice for tariffs.

 

[BuzzH]

Picked up a new UAV for work today.

$441 line item on my invoice for tariffs.

Send the bill to jimh406, he says you don't pay tariffs as a consumer.

 

[Handlebar]

Picked up a new UAV for work today.

$441 line item on my invoice for tariffs.

Just curious are there American made drones? If so are they inferior quality or lack certain features that you require?

 

[jimh406]

Send the bill to jimh406, he says you don't pay tariffs as a consumer.

Of course, I never said that, but if the line item wasn’t there, who paid for it?

 

[Wind Gypsy]

Regardless if you thought an election was stolen (or rigged or whatever) I cant imagine anyone thinking Joe Biden had much of anything to do with it. That seems crazy.

Yeah. Nobody thinks eat ice cream, nap, and sniff kids Joe was the mastermind of anything.

 

[MTGomer]

Just curious are there American made drones? If so are they inferior quality or lack certain features that you require?

Yes to both.

 

[mtmiller]

I just purchased a new Four Wheel Camper. I was pricing 2025s at the time and there was a tariff line item.

When I ordered mine late in 2025, before another price increase October 1, and knowing it wouldn't arrive until February I just got the 2026. They decided that the tariff line item wasn't a great look, so they just added costs to the build for 2026 and removed the "tariff" language. Apparently it didn't go over well for the '25s.

 

[Carnage2011]

Picked up a new UAV for work today.

$441 line item on my invoice for tariffs.

I just went through this exact same thing. Ordered a new spray drone and had a tariff charge of 7%.

 

[Irrelevant]

I guess I didn’t take it as those things all being definitively connected to each other but rather a number of happenings that could reasonably be tied to the dark world of Epstein and associates.

That said I can’t read the first sentence of that post in hindsight and argue that your interpretation of it isn’t also reasonable.

My point was that there's a seemingly huge sector of the population that has been convinced that big media is all lies because it has lied in the past. Yet damn near every other alternative media people have turned to is just as bad, if not worse. Mainstream journalism still has plenty of professionals who find self-worth and value in doing a good job, just like any other profession.

If you really want "good" journalism, you need to pay for it. @Big Fin has mentioned it time after time: you get what you pay for. If you're tuning into a free podcast, you get your "news" - to get the real dope on a situation - you have to recognize that you are the product. The news is not the product; the host/author is selling you to its advertisers. That system only works if it can drum up enough shock and awe to have a lot of listeners. Versus, just pay for your news, then you remove yourself as the product and put the news- the journalism - back as the product.

Think about that for a second.

Oh trust me, I've thought about it a shitload. I disappointingly think about it all the $*)Q!#@$ time. To the point where it's unhealthy, and I really just need to get the #*^@#* off the internet and stop being constantly reminded of it. My analogy is no different than people who claim Trump is an idiot, but is also capable of these complex mind game denogiations to line his pockets. He can't be both. She's CLEARLY not a higly capable person, no matter what FB or your favorite podcast claims. She's a powerhungery naccists who overplayed her hand. Honestly, I can't think of anyone in modern politics closer in temperament and ability to Trump than Hilary; he was slightly more successful, and she was a better speaker, but they're the same person.

 

[Hunting Wife]

I've read/heard the theories.

The situation still seems to be fluid. I'm sure you read that steel tariffs were a horrible idea like I did. Yet, Coosa Steel in Georgia disagrees. Just one example that implies what people "knew" to be true might not be. It was supposed to be bad for farmers, but that's not what is happening.

There are reason why people think tariffs are a good idea just like there are people who say the opposite. The truth seems to be tariffs can be a positive or negative depending on the industry and situation.

Go figure ... no absolutes.

My dad’s former employer (lifetime steel worker) has been pretty open about how much tariffs are adding to the costs of products. They mostly build cabs for some of the big heavy equipment brands.

Farmers here are paying tariffs on tractor parts, particularly John Deere. I’ve been hearing them complain about it all year. They tell me it’s been substantial on certain parts, depending on where they’re coming from. One of my regular landowners stopped by the office to chat. He said the same part he bought in 2024 for the combine was $300 more this year, due to tariffs.

I’ve been getting fraudulent FedEx invoices at work (long story), but all of them are for tariff fees for items we supposedly ordered from Europe. Looks like mostly beauty supplies and holistic goods though the Customs details are very vague and the print is microscopic. We’re at $300 in tariffs now over 2 months. I thought that was interesting. Apparently Fed Ex pays the tariff up front to expedite the shipping, then bills you for it later. Who knew?

But it’s not that easy to just see the tariffs in most cases because it not like you get an itemized receipt every time you buy groceries showing you how much of the price of coffee is product, and how much is tariff. Funny enough, a few retailers started out putting that on their websites early on to be transparent, but the administration pressured them to remove it, saying that was partisan and hostile to the administration.

Long story short, the administration wants to keep the public in the dark as much as possible because otherwise their narrative falls apart. It’s hard to find that information on purpose. Doesn’t mean it’s not true.

 

[Nick87]

Oh trust me, I've thought about it a shitload. I disappointingly think about it all the $*)Q!#@$ time. To the point where it's unhealthy, and I really just need to get the #*^@#* off the internet

Sounds rough. Two people of which couldn't give two shits about you or me.

 

[Gulf of America]

Just curious are there American made drones? If so are they inferior quality or lack certain features that you require?

Apparently, yes, but I think they’re also WAY more expensive. I’m a PM for state DOT and due to federal guidelines, we can’t reimburse anything associated with survey done with drones made outside the US - it’s causing all kinds of issues since nobody has US-made drones. Including us. For in-house survey, we’re apparently just billing to overhead and paying from the state general fund rather than getting different drones to get the federal share.

 

[NDGuy]

The grift never ends.

Trump’s “Board of Peace” is not a U.S. government body. It’s a private organization controlled by Trump himself, who is designated chairman for life and has the authority to choose his own successor. It’s filled with authoritarian countries and Russian puppets. Donations go into an account he controls. This raises serious concerns about conflicts of interest and self-dealing. If actions like this don’t give supporters pause, it’s hard not to worry about how deeply tribalism has taken hold in our politics.

Will congress stand up and say no? Or where is this 10 billion coming from?

Trump says US contributing $10B to Board of Peace, Iran must reach nuclear deal or 'bad things happen'

President Trump announces $10 billion U.S. commitment to Board of Peace initiative as he urges Iran to join the larger effort to bring peace to the region.

www.foxnews.com