Relax, Everything is Going to be Okay!

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We'll see in a few more years who they put up. Should be someone more centered. My guess is they'll disconnect even further. Hopefully I'm wrong, but i hate when I'm right.

Maybe I'm a lost cause, but the issues have taken shotgun to personality. I want a leader who acts like a leader first and foremost. Who sets an example to others, warts and all.

If that person has a batshit crazy platform, so be it. If ole Brain Worms had stayed in, he might have gotten my vote simply because I liked his demeanor, even if I think he's out in left field on some topics.

besides, i don't think you can do write ins for the congressional mid terms?

I feel like that's the biggest disconnect in my current thinking. It's a lot easier to beat someone tangential to DT with rational criticism. And I'm not factoring that in correctly.

 

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I feel like that's the biggest disconnect in my current thinking. It's a lot easier to beat someone tangential to DT with rational criticism. And I'm not factoring that in correctly.

Eh, nvm i think maybe you technically can for congressional elections. Nonetheless, I don't think it's going to be a factor.

I think independents by their very nature don't have huge attachment to R or D and some not insignificant number of them are starting to view DJT, as the leader of the GOP, as failing them and their country right now.

I could be wrong, but it sure seems like things are pointing that direction. And besides, history says it doesn't matter who is in office right now and how unhinged they may or may not be, their party will statistically net lose the midterms. Add in the unprecedented chaos of this first ~13 months on a domestic and global scale I just don't think it's much of a stretch to say the GOP is particularly #@)(*%* this fall.

Time will tell

 

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I will concede that a few percent of people who voted for this may vote for something else. But the VAST majority of those who voted for him are still overly loyal. We've beaten this dead horse to the point where it's getting hard to recognize it's still a horse, but then your idenitfy is tied to your politics, when you've convinced yourself that one side of the coin is morally just (or at least always morally above the other side), or more simply if your religion is based on an orange prophet, then you can't change. Literally can't.

We see it all over this thread and HT (and society) in general.

It's not like there aren't plenty of people on the other side of that coin with the same conviction.

I think you are confusing base support versus other support. His MAGA base won't change...but he won because lots of people...including surprising numbers of minorities..weren't die hard MAGA zealots but thought he'd make things better financially for them.

Those folks are getting hit hard, Trumo is telling and showing them that the color of their skin means they can be persecuted, and telling them they already have a better economic situation when they know thats a lie. Most will flip if they haven't already.

 

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Those folks are getting hit hard, Trumo is telling and showing them that the color of their skin means they can be persecuted, and telling them they already have a better economic situation when they know thats a lie. Most will flip if they haven't already.

That type of logic has been fundamentally flawed for at least the last 12 years. People believe his lies, if for no other reason than you can't tell truth from a lie anymore. And each year it gets harder. Each year, the lies are bigger, bolder, and more demanding, and harder to refute.