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Irrelevant
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Can you imagine applying that logic to the real world? If you create speed limits everyone is just going to speed anyway so might as well not have them. Why have BAC limits, it's just going to turn good hard-working people into criminals, better do have those limits. And let's not even get into the havoc it would cause in the world of parenting.
Ask me what I think about that BS nanny-state clean air act.
it would be disengenous to say that those issues and hunting are relatable. However, yes - people still speed, but there's a fine and potential jail time if you break that law, or driving impaired, and there's a massive public safety issue that doesn't transfer over to recreational hunting. The likelihood of getting caught for poaching is pretty low so the risk-reward is much greater.
Also, it's precisely the argument that was made in favor of the transferable licenses.
Nameless Range
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This is the crux.
Subject to change.
I'm very interested to see how WY tackles the issue again. I don't think the outcome will be different than this year though, with the exceptions of effigies in the street.
I would bet on that outcome as well, but with less certainty than five years ago.
SAJ-99
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I would like to see that argued in front of a judge. "Sorry judge, I didn't draw a tag which caused an invitation, if not obligation, for me to poach in an effort to fill the void in my soul. It's pretty much human nature."
Nameless Range
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Maybe. I'm not too familiar with other states but in Montana I'd wager there'd be (in chronological order): Massive opposition in the legislature, and if successful there, a year or two later a very successful citizens initiative reversing it.
Basically, an injection of unneeded consternation only a tiny minority of Montanans asked for wasting both time and money.
Or put another way: a boon for access and game populations, and certainly not a waste of money- should be cost-positive to the state if done right.
Forkyfinder
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Arent you essentially describing the model montana has? Rip the NR off to the benefit of R?
Nameless Range
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Montanans already have the most expansive private land access program in the west. I don't see people trading expansive for expensive.
I'll leave it to the residents of other states if they wanna buy what's being sold to them.
Montanas access program is very expensive, you’re just not paying for it
(It’s also dying a slow death).
That model is not unique to Montana, my man…
Nameless Range
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Montanas access program is very expensive, you’re just not paying for it
I'm very careful in what I write, which is why I wrote Montanans - those with considerative primacy in the development of both laws and policy - and those who would be the ones to decide whether a change would benefit them, or to reverse a change that didn't.
I would like to see that argued in front of a judge. "Sorry judge, I didn't draw a tag which caused an invitation, if not obligation, for me to poach in an effort to fill the void in my soul. It's pretty much human nature."
96% of poachers aren't caught, per the Boone & Crockett study. Those who do oftentimes just get a slap on the wrist.
My point isn't a legal defense, it's simply an observation on human nature.
5 years ago, WY hadn't had a concentrated push on transferability. This year, legislators introduced that bill and it was dead before the hearing. Now, the public side is organized, ready to rock & roll and agitated on it. I'd say there's less of a chance now than there was 5 years ago.
SAJ-99
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I think I agree with the others that observation of human nature you see is people will break laws if it benefits them and they think they won’t get caught. For those poachers that just leave the animal to waste, they are psychopaths. Hopefully that is not the dominant condition in human nature, but these days I wonder.
We’ll see. I could see some horse-trading with 90/10 etc, but I could be wrong.
If not this year, eventually.
I'd wager that most people who poach aren't doing it for the antlers.
