Minnesota Shotgun Zone going to Rifle

No. How are the commissioners not supposed to assume that’s what the constituents want if there is no one in opposition to it at the public meeting?

So the commissioners are supposed to think there was 100 people at this meeting and 90 of them were in favor of the change but that’s not a representation of the other citizens of the county that didn’t show up and voice their opinion.
But you can't believe that the only information they're going to use is from that meeting. If that was a case, they could just hold a vote there.And be done with it, but that's not the way the system works. I don't believe they ever go by popular opinion at these meetings. It's just one of the factors they consider. If wildlife management was done like that, we wouldn't have any wildlife.
 
But you can't believe that the only information they're going to use is from that meeting. If that was a case, they could just hold a vote there.And be done with it, but that's not the way the system works. I don't believe they ever go by popular opinion at these meetings. It's just one of the factors they consider. If wildlife management was done like that, we wouldn't have any wildlife.
We see it all the time for Wildlife management. Look at how many hunting seasons for bears and furbearers have been closed because of “popular opinion”.
 
We see it all the time for Wildlife management. Look at how many hunting seasons for bears and furbearers have been closed because of “popular opinion”.
And look at how many counties have rifles when they used to have shotguns. You know, rifles in Iowa was a political decision. Not a wildlife science-based decision.
 
The real problem is that it was left up to the county to decide. I don't really care about the result. It would've been better for my son's first year this year to be able to shoot the rifle for comfort level, but he'll do fine with the shotgun too. Won't make a difference safety or shot distance-wise for him.
 
Simply that hunters at meetings often get things ramrodded through. Sometimes. But not this time. Yet.
I don’t agree with that.

My original statement really had nothing to do with rifles or shotguns. It was that commissioners were going against the opinion of the people. If they had statements from residents of the county or data to show they should have said so. Often times they do get emails or phone calls from the public, maybe in the minutes of the meeting where they ultimatelY made the final decision there will be reasoning for their decision.
 
I don’t agree with that.

My original statement really had nothing to do with rifles or shotguns. It was that commissioners were going against the opinion of the people. If they had statements from residents of the county or data to show they should have said so. Often times they do get emails or phone calls from the public, maybe in the minutes of the meeting where they ultimatelY made the final decision there will be reasoning for their decision.
They were going against the opinion of the people at the meeting. That is not the opinion of the people. And if they are any good, they only consider the opinion of the people at the meeting. They should not march to their drum.

Just as an aside, why is it so important that the people of this county be allowed to shoot rifles?
 
They were going against the opinion of the people at the meeting. That is not the opinion of the people. And if they are any good, they only consider the opinion of the people at the meeting. They should not march to their drum.

Just as an aside, why is it so important that the people of this county be allowed to shoot rifles?
This is obviously pointless, but Once again…who are you to assume that? If the commissioner hears from 100 people and 90 of them are for rifles he may have to go against his beliefs unless he can show evidence to support his decision. at the meeting on March 3 the majority of the comments were for rifles. If the commissioners had opinions to the contrary from other public forums, interactions with other residents or what not they should say so. But by the minutes of March 3 meeting it appears they just threw all statements from citizens who attended the meeting out the window and voted on their personal feelings.

I have never once said I was in favor of the rifles. I could care less. I don’t hunt in Minnesota and I use a 20 gauge in a state that allows rifles. My very first statement was I was interested to see how the process unfolds allowing the county to make such a regulation and I think it’s pretty obvious why the state did that. They knew there would be feelings from both sides of the argument and they did not want to piss anyone off. They wanted to place the blame on the county.
 
Pretty common....dealing with unrelated issue where I see this right now in my county.....for commissioner's to not advertise the input they received outside of meetings.

I might expect farmers gave them an earful but didnt show up at the meeting.
 
Pretty common....dealing with unrelated issue where I see this right now in my county.....for commissioner's to not advertise the input they received outside of meetings.

I might expect farmers gave them an earful but didnt show up at the meeting.
Deer "farmers" maybe. Most other farmers want more deer killed and would definitely be in favor of rifles. Especially around the southeast where farmers lose a considerable portion of crops to deer and other wildlife each year
 
Deer "farmers" maybe. Most other farmers want more deer killed and would definitely be in favor of rifles. Especially around the southeast where farmers lose a considerable portion of crops to deer and other wildlife each year
Thst would be nice, but my long impression from locals there is farmers rarely allow publuc access and there is a fair amount of public land with poor access unless you can cross private fields.
 
Just do like georgia, have a rifle season that lasts from oct 15- jan 15 and make it a two buck state.

That way you wont have deer to argue over
 
Just do like georgia, have a rifle season that lasts from oct 15- jan 15 and make it a two buck state.

That way you wont have deer to argue over
This is an area that has allowed 5+ deer per year for nearly 30 years, 3 bucks per year for like 5 years, and has had extra disease management season that are essentially unlimited for close to 10 years. It hasn't made a noticeable dent in the population.
 
This is an area that has allowed 5+ deer per year for nearly 30 years, 3 bucks per year for like 5 years, and has had extra disease management season that are essentially unlimited for close to 10 years. It hasn't made a noticeable dent in the population.
Because of lack of access.
 

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