Messing up a wet dream - MTFWP big 3 draw

[Gus Chiggins]

They gave out 55 extra ewe tags.

Next year, if they give out 55 extra ram tags, they have set a wonderful precedent.

Everyone gets tags!

 

[Desk Pop]

Everyone gets tags!

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A couple more years of MTFWP botched draws and a top end breaks ram will look like this...

 

[BAKPAKR]

A couple more years of MTFWP botched draws and a top end breaks ram will look like this...View attachment 276449

I forgot about the giraffe camo rifle.

 

[DFS]

It’s hard to understand a game agency that puts hunters wants before the health of the herd. It also says a lot about the agency that they have taken the easy way out two years in a row.

 

[PaulRevere]

Nothing about this surprises me.

 

[EYJONAS!]

A couple more years of MTFWP botched draws and a top end breaks ram will look like this...View attachment 276449

Unfortunately they're already trending that way. Since they increased the ram tags a few years ago. The caliber has trended down and very quickly.

 

[mmw194287]

It’s hard to understand a game agency that puts hunters wants before the health of the herd. It also says a lot about the agency that they have taken the easy way out two years in a row.

Cowards.

 

[DFS]

Cowards.

It was a ewe tag. Nameless range’s post about the future of the big 3 made me do a lot of thinking. I was hoping for a goat tag this year now I’m not sure I even want one. When populations are declining should we be complaining about not trying to eradicate them?

 

[warmer]

Remember the time SDGFP sent "successful" email to all 3500 applicants? Yeah, I do.

 

[EYJONAS!]

I was hoping for a goat tag this year now I’m not sure I even want one.

Well Doug then just step aside then. I'll gladly take it

 

[shrapnel]

So, does that mean I may still get my breaks Sheep permit that I haven’t drawn?

 

[cgasner1]

Wonder if they would let me trade a tag I have for a different one

 

[slatebuilder]

A couple more years of MTFWP botched draws and a top end breaks ram will look like this...View attachment 276449

Edit: some past hunters missed this instructional video

 

[mmw194287]

It was a ewe tag. Nameless range’s post about the future of the big 3 made me do a lot of thinking. I was hoping for a goat tag this year now I’m not sure I even want one. When populations are declining should we be complaining about not trying to eradicate them?

Oh yea, don't get me wrong--there was a moment of ever-so-slight disappointment, but no one on this end is at all upset about the tag being taken back. My "cowards" comment was in regards to the agency just letting people keep tags that will likely result in harvest exceeding what had previously been determined to be the proper quota.

I look forward to the day that FWP makes some unpopular decisions for the health of our herds...but instances like these don't give me much hope for the current leadership.

 

[CPAjeff]

Can’t wait for the Fresh Tracks Weekly episode about this debacle! I’m expecting some Uncle Larry type phrases and vernacular.

 

[Nameless Range]

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Well, my wife drew one of the ewe tags in question and it just let me buy the license this morning, so they screwed up the supposed "fix" as well.

It’s because of things like this, that we really cannot take someone’s word that the issue has been fixed. I’m not saying it’s nefarious, but I hope that as journalists/hunters/etc we verify every claim they make about fixing the issue and preventing a drastic over harvest

 

[Stone_Ice_1]

It’s because of things like this, that we really cannot take someone’s word that the issue has been fixed. I’m not saying it’s nefarious, but I hope that as journalists/hunters/etc we verify every claim they make about fixing the issue and preventing a drastic over harvest

It just makes me wonder how often there have been screw ups throughout the years and they just didn't tell anybody except maybe a tag owner or two that benefitted fromt he mistakes. Or even just didn't tell anybody. How would any of us know if there were 200 bull elk tags given out in a district that is supposed to only have 100? How would we know if they forgot to square our points for the draw? There a million things that they could mess up and very few people would know.

Of course this is only a discussion point because of the all the screwups that we KNOW about.

Makes me think this is another reason the draw should be done by a third party and then checked by another outfit. Obviously this all comes from a distrust of FWP and how they run things.

 

[mmw194287]

It’s because of things like this, that we really cannot take someone’s word that the issue has been fixed. I’m not saying it’s nefarious, but I hope that as journalists/hunters/etc we verify every claim they make about fixing the issue and preventing a drastic over harvest

Just checked again, and as of this morning the sheep license is gone from her "Items Held" in MyFWP....so that's encouraging.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

“Hey, why don’t we run the draw in a test environment first and check everything before pushing results to licensing and the application servers”.

Hank

 

[Sasquatchewan]

Pay a state programmer 200k to do the job right... nah let's pay Kalkomey 1MM so they can pay their programmer 200k and pocket the other 800k.

Welcome to the world of government contracts, "small government" folks saving the tax payer money

As someone who is in the middle of dealing with a sub-sub-sub-contracted gov't contract, I feel this.