Jim Zumbo is Dumbo

[Bambistew]

I guess I'm in the minority when it comes to bow hunting then. My 'maximum' distance is still 35-40 yards regarless of what I'm using. Just because you can shoot that far doesn't mean that people do nor does it mean that the shot opportunities are there.

For instance out here on the east coast, its pretty hard to get a shot off much farther than 30 yards in most places. That super duper mathews woudln't be much of an advantage compared to the ol Bear Whitetail I used to shoot. The deer would be dead with either one.

Same can be said for the new supper dupper magnums. They might be laser beams to 500 yards but I doubt I'll shoot at anything at much over 300.

 

[Ithaca 37]

Buzz is right about our image. Smart hunters don't drive around with elk and deer heads tied to the front bumper, they don't get drunk and obnoxious in public, they dress well, behave well and present an image that reasonable people won't object to. Thirty years ago friends used to make wisecracks about how nice I looked when we went hunting because I had a decent looking pair of pants on and a decent looking shirt instead of the raggedy looking old clothes they were wearing and three or four days of beard stubble. I'd say, "Who do you think has a better chance of getting permission to hunt private land when we ask? Who do you think presents a better image of hunters? You guys look like slobs. We can't do that anymore if we're going to protect our privilege to hunt in the future."

Most of them smartened up.

Zumbo has always been a lazy assed shit head. If he had any brains he'd point out that our image is very important in dealing with the non-hunting public and he'd educate those assault weapon carrying yahoos about that. What he's dealing with in his blog is mostly a typical bunch of NRA peabrains who want to fight with everybody about their right to carry any kinda weapon in public and give the finger to everybody.

Any hunter with a brain knows the image we present to the public is important in protecting our hunting privilege. It's not a "right", in case you guys aren't aware. Educate your fellow hunters about that.

 

[Point Creep]

Ithaca, I doubt you'll find anybody that disagrees that image is important, so is common sense. But make it law? ..Come on.

Make it illegal for me to shoot an antelope with my AR -- because it could potentially upset somebody?? That's a frikkin crock of shit. Nut up and admit it.

And Buzz, the regs you cite.. understandable. Some have merit, most don't. More examples of legislation instead of education. It doesn't make it any less of a crock of crap in my opinion. Laws aren't going to make stupid people smart.

 

[BuzzH]

Greenhorn...

Does this mean I cant wear the cheek-less leather pants on our next hunting trip?

 

[Oak]

Greenhorn, better answer no to that one. I've seen 'em.

 

[Point Creep]

Are those the pants he wore while shed hunting with you? Must have been your bright red handprint on his bun then.. I saw the photos. Image? Buzz, of all people..

 

[Oak]

Naw, that was Doug's handprint. I've never stayed with Buzz in the "house of gay" without his wife present, but he and Doug have spent many a night alone together in that thing.

 

[BuzzH]

Greenhorn,

I'm surprised you would mistake Oaks handprint from Dougs...

I can see where you'd have a tough time knowing Oaks handprint from that of a carnie...you know circus folk...small hands.

 

[Oak]

Mm-hmm....and smell like cabbage, right?

 

[Ithaca 37]

Greenie, No, I'm not advocating laws against assault weapon types of hunting rifles or shotguns. That's such an incredible can of worms it's impossible to legislate anyway and shouldn't be.

My beef is with hunters and target shooters who want to flaunt their right to bear assault weapons and make it tougher for the rest of us to protect our hunting privileges.

 

[Bambistew]

Zumbo's sponsors are dropping like flies...

Press

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Remington to Sever Sponsorship Ties with Jim Zumbo

Madison, North Carolina – As a result of comments made by Mr. Jim Zumbo in recent postings on his blog site, Remington Arms Company, Inc., has severed all sponsorship ties with Mr. Zumbo effective immediately. While Mr. Zumbo is entitled to his opinions and has the constitutional right to freely express those options, these comments are solely his, and do not reflect the views of Remington.

“Remington has spent tens of millions of dollars defending our Second Amendment rights to privately own and possess firearms and we will continue to vigorously fight to protect these rights,” commented Tommy Millner, Remington’s CEO and President. “As hunters and shooters of all interest levels, we should strive to utilize this unfortunate occurrence to unite as a whole in support of our Second Amendment rights.”

We regret having to terminate our long-standing relationship with Mr. Zumbo, who is a well-respected writer and life-long hunter.


Cabelas is writing a draft at the moment...

Zumbo is toast.

 

[Point Creep]

Stupidity has its price.

 

[Dinkshooter]

An old blow hard is how I always saw him. He oughta be smarter than to spout off about anything 2nd amendment related. Internet is to fast these days.

He did stand up for AZ residents when that blew up and claimed he wasn't gonna use his tag he drew when they threw out the NR caps.

 

[Ithaca 37]

Wow! What a firestorm! http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/

 

[A-con]

Let’s dispel a myth right now. The basic AR type action, as well as FALs and G-3s can be wonderfully efficient hunting rifles. Available in a number of calibers from the basic .223 to .243, 7mm-08 and .308. At least one company makes a version in .300 Win Mag.
Accuracy is as good or even better that the average “bolt action”. An AR-15/H-bar that won’t shoot sub minuet groups has something wrong with it. I have seen quite a few that would shoot ½ MOA. Very reliable as well, they will cycle thousands of rounds between cleanings without malfunction.
Keep in mind that the antis really don’t see a difference between a black rifle and a pre 64 M 70 with a $3000 custom stock. A gun is a gun and they want them all outlawed. There have already been several pushes to outlaw any firearm that will penetrate a Kevlar vest. Do you know what the average deer or elk rifle will do to a Kevlar vest?
This whole “assault rifle” craze is just another attempt to scare the public, are you scared?

 

[ringer]

Buzz-Who cares what "professional" varmint hunters use? How many ranchers have a mini-14 or mini-30 on the rack? A bunch here do and they are damn good rifles for popping varmints so why on earth would a hunter want to outlaw them? There is a point where political correctness vs fighting for rights will become dangerous to our future. Some of you guys are very close to joining dumbo on the dark side.

 

[Ithaca 37]

Like it or not, an assault looking rifle is a lot more alarming to the general public than a more traditional looking hunting rifle, and that's what we have to be concerned about; the perception of the general public. And I'm not advocating banning anything, just being more discretionary about our image. When I see where some yahoos bave been shooting up televisions and washing machines on public land with assault rifles and leaving trash all around I don't think of them as hunters, but many people do. In case you're wondering how I know what they're using, I look at the empty brass-----type and amount. I was at a place yesterday that's been completely trashed by disqusting plinkers.

 

[Point Creep]

Ithaca, Do you think jackasses that shoot washers and driers with assault rifles won't shoot washers and driers if it's illegal to use them for big game?

Do you think that jackasses that shoot washers and driers with assault rifles won't shoot washers and driers if they didn't have assault rifles, but only had only bolt action hunting rifles?

Banning a type of rifle isn't the answer. That's should be fairly clear. Banning any gun because of it's appearance or image it might give the public is a hosed way to deal with the problem.

There's probably a whole stack of people out there that are disgusted about the image of a perfectly tasteful hunting photo with a bolt action rifle, or bow, or anybody wearing a Realtree camo jacket. Should we ban all that too -- just because the image is unsettling for some?

Whacked I tell ya...

 

[BuzzH]

Ringer,

Try to follow along...I dont care if people own them or shoot them.

I do have the right to petition my game and fish, your game and fish, and any other game and fish department in any state to not allow assault rifles for hunting.

Just the same way that Idaho has chosen to make in-lines, sabots, and pyrodex pellets illegal for muzzle loader hunting. The same way Wyoming has made it illegal to hunt big-game with a .22 centerfire. The same reason you cant use lighted sights on bows in Montana. The same reason some states dont allow you to use armor piercing ammo for hunting big-game. The same reason we have to shoot steel shot at waterfowl.

Not being able to hunt with a certain type of firearm has nothing to do with your second amendment rights.

Two very seperate issues.

 

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So I wonder how this one will play out?



Battle Lines
By Todd. W. Smith
Editor-in-Chief

Listen up! Here's how someone serving our country can win a hunt.

February 2007

Freedom is so easy to take for granted. In America, it surrounds us—the freedom to say what we want, write what we want, worship the way we want and even poke fun at whom we want. But those freedoms didn’t come cheap. They were paid for by the minutemen at Bunker Hill and the G.I.’s who served through two World Wars, by American soldiers in Korea and grunts in Vietnam. And the price for our freedom is being paid today by thousands of American men and women serving in harm’s way in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Some have paid the ultimate price by giving up their lives on the field of battle. Others will bear the scars of war from grievous wounds or the charred memories of fallen comrades. It is a mighty sacrifice but a necessary one.

We should be proud that so many of our countrymen have chosen to protect our way of life and be grateful for the sacrifices they are making every day. It is a debt that can never be fully repaid, but two men I know are trying to say thanks in an exciting way.

Recently, Hunting Editor Jim Zumbo called to say that he and a guide, Kevin Olmstead, wanted to do something special for our troops. They suggested offering a contest for military men and women with the chance to win a hunt with Zumbo courtesy of Kevin’s five-star guide service, Prophet Muskwa (250-789-9494; prophet muskwa.com), in British Columbia.

Kevin’s outfitting area is gigantic and offers some of the best moose and elk hunting in all of North America. The scenery is spectacular and the accommodations at Prophet Muskwa are truly first-class. (Check out Zumbo’s story, “North America’s Wildest Hunt,” on page 50 and you’ll begin to get an idea of just how incredible this area is.)

The winner will be able to choose an all-expenses-paid hunt for either moose or elk. The hunt will be scheduled for sometime in the fall of 2007.

To qualify, you must be serving or have served in either Afghanistan or Iraq sometime since the invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001. Contestants will submit a short essay of 750 to 1,000 words explaining “how their hunting and fishing experiences have helped them become better military men and women in the field.” Jim Zumbo and a panel of editors will choose the winning essay, which will run in a future issue of Outdoor Life. Runners-up will be posted on outdoorlife.com.

This will truly be a once-in-a-lifetime experience for whoever wins and a chance for all of us to say thanks to those who have chosen to defend our freedoms by serving our country in the armed forces. Look for full contest rules and entry details in our June/July issue as well as online >> click here