Interesting use of ESA
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rwc101
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Didn't know grizzlies needed trails to travel to a ranch.
JEL
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Right..........concerned about grizzlies
MThuntr
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Novel use for sure but we all know it's because he doesn't want "his" elk and deer being shot by the groundlings on the FS property
BigHornRam
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Land owner stealing a page out of the enviros play book. What a dick move....
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“Providing easier hunting access to the West Fork of the Stillwater raises another concern with the Donohoes. By increasing hunter access to the area, they argue, it “is reasonably certain to increase” hunter conflicts with grizzly bears harvest of our elk herd.”
Fixed it.
Fixed it.
This guy does like predators. I’ve asked him if I can hunt wolves and he declined, hoping that they would eat some elk.
Another point not addressed in the article... the road is garbage and nobody wants to drag their horse trailer back there.
Another point not addressed in the article... the road is garbage and nobody wants to drag their horse trailer back there.
BigHornRam
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Building new trails in grizzly country is bad for the grizzlies according to this article.....
www.kpax.com
Opposition mounts to national trail in Yaak grizzly country
Only a short section of the Pacific Northwest Trail passes through northwest Montana but Congress put it one of the worst spots for grizzly bears, so some want the trail moved farther south.
www.kpax.com
I wish the average guided hunter did enough research to boycott outfits that pull crap like this. Much like the sheep guide in the Breaks that also runs domestic sheep on the same lands the bighorns use, creating a situation ripe for disease transmission.
SAJ-99
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I think that was the point of the article. They are going to do improvements on the road.
BigHornRam
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No, they are looking to open up a trail on a different old abandoned road to non motorized use that gives additional access to the West Fork Trail.
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I can understand how an article like this, without a map, would not paint a clear picture for people unfamiliar with the area.
The road to get to the W fk/Initial creek trailheads is a disaster.
It did get graded this year because there is exploratory surface drilling into the reef going on through the end of the year, so it’s temporarily a little better than it had been in years past, but it needs major work. Until that happens, people will not take their stock trailers back there on a regular basis.
Stillwater Mining does a great job maintaining their portion through the mine site, but once you get past them, it is bad.
Currently people are riding from the Stillwater trailhead to get to the lake plateau.
SAJ-99
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Yes, sorry, that was a previous stage of the project.
BigHornRam
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First stage was a one mile reroute. Latest proposal is opening up a second 3 mile route to same trail. Can't say if this will improve access or not. Gomer probably knows answer to this.
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I see Gomer was typing and answered while I was typing.
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I see Gomer was typing and answered while I was typing.
SAJ-99
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Agree. That road and many others in the various drainages. They took a lot of traffic this year. I would guess it gets regraded. Maybe some of those GAOA funds will be directed that way.
BigHornRam
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I looked at some maps and getting in to Picket Pin road from Nye is more direct, and if it is in equal or better condition than FR2846, the new trail project makes sense to me, and hope it goes forward.
MTLabrador
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Irrelevant
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In case people were lazy and didn't want to read it.
To summarize:
"The lawsuit highlights... and how the family is using the ESA — an act meant to save animals — as a way to protect their private interests."
To summarize:
"The lawsuit highlights... and how the family is using the ESA — an act meant to save animals — as a way to protect their private interests."
BigHornRam
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West Fork road sounds a lot like the Lake Abundance road. Sounds like a lot of mountain dirt roads to be honest.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Makes since
