“I don’t want you hunting this outfit.”

[birdseye]

Internet badasses are more badass than real ones. mtmuley

ha! I don't think this quite came out like you wanted it too

 

[MTLabrador]

AR THEY UP ROCK CREEK?! Lots of ELK Up ROCK CREEK!

 

[338win]

Less than 8k a person though right? Otherwise they would have just paid for that access across the private. Its not quite the same.

I can't imagine the prices for a helo ride are more expensive than the rates in AK flying bush planes due to the logistics, location and risk/insurance costs. With that said, I think I can comfortably assume that they paid somewhere in the range of 2k-4k per person for the flight which would put it quite a bit cheaper than the private land access route and not at all too far out of "your typical hunters" as people pay these prices all the time to hunt in Alaska. They are paying for those flights typically to hunt quality animals in an exclusive place - no different than this hunt

Helicopters are insanely expensive. You are probably looking at $2500+ per flight hour to break even if it’s a turbine Bell 206. Bush flights are not in the same universe using light fixed wing.

 

[338win]

I grew up with the ranching community. Some of the old boys weren't to be messed with. mtmuley

Did they provide the inspiration for broke back mountain?

 

[Rack Daniels]

Only the ones with badges are allowed to hand out ass whoopings these days…

It’s too bad too, I feel like LEOs had a lot less phone calls about drama to deal with, back when shady people were still getting ass whoopings from the would-be victim… Glad they got the rack back and that would-be victim was NOT so much of a weenie that he stayed back and just snapped photos. I would hope that if the rancher got his ass whipped and ol MTLAB shows up he wouldn’t be quick to slap on “felony charges”. Who would be the immoral one then?… some mugshots have big smiles. As they should.

 

[Bullshot]

This particular, but I doubt all too rare, ADJACENT landowner entitlement is out of control. He knew full well he was committing premeditated theft and harassment and DID NOT CARE. This is no grey area, no debate, no complicated technical argument, no competing versions of truth. No LE or court should give him a break based on him "not wanting them to hunt that outfit." The only "better" decisions he started making happened after he was caught red handed and fortunately gave back the head. Too late! Bet he probably went to church on Sunday and didn't even bow his head an inch in shame. And his family and buddies, and he, probably STILL believe he was in the right. Twisted.

 

[BuzzH]

I'm going to be most interested in the hunter harassment issue.

I have my doubts a citation will be issued, but hope I'm wrong.

 

[MTGomer]

A helicopter costs about $1500/hr. Pretty affordable split between five people. A hour each direction is like $600/person. this assumes you can fit everybody and their gear in the same trip, which I have no idea if that’s the case.

What is much more unique is that anybody has four other people they like, trust, and have the time to hunt with all on the same schedule.

 

[geetar]

What is much more unique is that anybody has four other people they like, trust, and have the time to hunt with all on the same schedule.

This ^^

 

[Nameless Range]

I'm going to be most interested in the hunter harassment issue.

I have my doubts a citation will be issued, but hope I'm wrong.

If that ain’t harassment I don’t know what is. Not to mention attempted theft.

 

[Hammsolo]

This is pretty fascinating for another reason too: these are not your typical hunters.

There's no judgment here, but they had the time, equipment, and money to go in as a group on a helicopter to hunt this property. I'm not using this in a pejorative way, but that makes them pretty elite. A common-man hunter probably would never find themself in this position, because they can't get there either.

In a sense, both these hunters and the landowner have "exclusive" access to this public land. One for owning the property around it, the other for having the resources to get to it.

I don't know how I feel about that, really. Just has me thinking.

Do you think this rancher would behave differently to a hunter near a foot accessible order?

I have many rancher friends, and they’re amazing reasonable people. I appreciate the focus on that rancher being an ass.

 

[Hammsolo]

Extremely doubtful that G & F and/or Sheriff will do anything, especially if this particular rancher is some big "name" enamored by law enforcement. And...if so, don't be surprised if G & F and/or Sheriff is looking at some way to stick it to these heli-hunters. I'd love to be wrong on this one.

Regarding the "theft" of one's property (which occurred when this clown stole and cached the elk head), I imagine that the value is $1,000 + so he's looking at felony charges

Personally, I would of pounded this Mother eF'r to the ground on the spot.

My brother would have had to step in. I would have had a VERY hard time watching the poor guy trip and fall down the hill.