Home purchase

Skilled tradesmen are charging good money right now, and staying busy. It's all relative, I supposed. It has been that way, as long as I have been in the trades. The dollar's buying power has definitely shrunk over the years.
It would be pretty tight for sure. Our house has increased in value 45% in the past 10 years and more than doubled in price for what we built it for.

It's valued at 800K, which, IMO, is way above what it's worth. Neighbors house just hit the market at 939K.

I would guess with a 20% down on my house, I'd be looking at 4500-5000 a month house payment with taxes and insurance.

This shit has to stop.
We've been getting record raises the last few years. Still say we're way behind what we were a short few years ago. Im not sure if its a race to the top or a race to the bottom at this point.
 
would guess with a 20% down on my house, I'd be looking at 4500-5000 a month house payment with taxes and insurance.
When I was younger (granted that was a really good time to be buying). 20% down
was about half a years salary. Roughly. And a payment was was maybe a weeks pay. Now a years salary or more and probably closer to two weeks.
 
No way we could afford to buy our place over again.

We bought in 2018 and refinanced a year later to a 2.25% on a 15 year note. We turned down a 2x cash offer over purchase price during Covid as it wouldn’t move the needle anywhere for us. Our area continues to grow, and to buy something similar would easily push us into a monthly payment that would leave us house poor.
 
It will be interesting to jump into the housing market again. Try to squirrel away as much cash as possible.

This shit has to stop.

I find it rich that you decry a system you are no doubt taking advantage of.

Unless of course you plan to sell your house well below market value, and off load your rental to help the housing shortage?
 
I hired a guy, fresh out of college with a architecture degree, a new wife, and baby, in the mid 90s. The sad part was, I could pay him a a better wage as a green as grass carpenter helper, then any architectural firm was willing to pay him. He got some hands on experience for a couple years then an architecture job in the Portland area. It all worked out in the long run.
Interesting story.

Another thing thats true - same kid starting out today is hosed. All while paying a higher percentage of taxes, and absolute amount, for boomer reparations (ss + medicare).
 
Sure. I also know a young tile guy that works with his dad. Just got married, and built a new house just south of Stevensville. Kid works his butt off.
Good to hear that learning a skill, getting very good at it, and working hard still pays off. What happens to the "average" or below guy? Do they do contract work through big box stores or does reputation drive work so much that they have to leave town?
 
Two incomes I bet. mtmuley
Im not even considered a young guy. But if my wife didn't have her part time income. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell. Very fortunate to have my parents willing to help out when we are both working Saturdays, otherwise the juice wouldn't be worth the squeeze.
 
Good to hear that learning a skill, getting very good at it, and working hard still pays off. What happens to the "average" or below guy? Do they do contract work through big box stores or does reputation drive work so much that they have to leave town?
There are levels of quality in construction of homes. Everyone finds their level. mtmuley
 
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