Hammer vs Barnes question???

[Hammsolo]

All my hunting chamberings use Hammer. I still use some Barnes in some of my varmint guns.
BUT the cost of the hammers stops me from using them on most of my HIGH volume because of the cost put there, well worth the price for the hunting chamberings. Funny thing, someone asked about finding Hammer petals. I shot a nice white tale buck this year. I was using my 358 Win 215 gr THH hammer. It was a 287-yard shot I hit dead center onside shoulder. I went through and crushed the offside shoulder. Dead right there, I didn't dig through the mess for a bullet. Later I was sking the head to boil it off, and I found what I think is a pettle just under the skin on its Nose??? Crazy.

Huge bullet huge text!

 

[Schutzhund]

Does anyone know the difference between the Power hammer and the Hammer Hunter other than the PH has a 2.0mm HP vs 1.5mm HP in the HH. There's no description on the website about the PH.

Anyone have experience with the Power Hammer on critters larger than deer? Ive got them loaded in my 9.3x62 for coastal bear next spring but have never shot anything with them as the rifle is a new build I completed this summer.

 

[D4570]

Call them, they always answer the phone.

 

[Schutzhund]

Call them, they always answer the phone.

Ive talked to Steve several times with other questions. I didnt want to bother him again and used this thread to reach a broader sample of hunters first.

 

[mtmuley]

Ive talked to Steve several times with other questions. I didnt want to bother him again and used this thread to reach a broader sample of hunters first.

I've known the guy over 40 years. Trust me, he likes to talk bullets. mtmuley

 

[Schutzhund]

I've known the guy over 40 years. Trust me, he likes to talk bullets. mtmuley

He is enthusiastic thats for sure. I'll call him but I'm still interested if anyone here has used the larger Power Hammer? .30 cal and up.

 

[mtmuley]

He is enthusiastic thats for sure. I'll call him but I'm still interested if anyone here has used the larger Power Hammer? .30 cal and up.

Or you could post up your question on the Hamner site. mtmuley

 

[std7mag]

I don't often use lead free bullets.
But when I do it's either Hammer or Cutting Edge.

I'd use the original Barnes "X"bullets. They were originally designed to shed their petals.
But by now the copper would have age hardened.

With the performance I've seen with the modern Barnes bullets, I'll pass.

 

[Schutzhund]

Or you could post up your question on the Hamner site. mtmuley

Ive thought about that and i may join once I have something to contribute to the discussion. I know they like to see successful/accurate load development, ive just crossed that bridge.

 

[oxn939]

Do you guys that use hammers ever find any of the petals?

Yep. Exit wound on my elk this year. 80ish yard shot, 120 grain Hammer Hunter via 7mm-08. Second elk I've killed with a round that is "way too small" for 600 pound animals

by now the copper would have age hardened.

Interesting. Never heard of copper age hardening, and Google says that's not a thing. Do you have experience with this?

 

[D4570]

I have a 1919 Penny that I just ran through one of those presses that made a dog tag. It ran through the same as a 2019 I had. I don't think that's a thing.

 

[std7mag]

Yep. Exit wound on my elk this year. 80ish yard shot, 120 grain Hammer Hunter via 7mm-08. Second elk I've killed with a round that is "way too small" for 600 pound animals

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Interesting. Never heard of copper age hardening, and Google says that's not a thing. Do you have experience with this?

Not with bullets. I go through them too fast. Lol

But I have experience with copper (not just copper does it) age hardening in the aviation field.

Quick heat up to glowing then let cool anneals it.
Don't quench!

 

[oxn939]

Not with bullets. I go through them too fast. Lol

But I have experience with copper (not just copper does it) age hardening in the aviation field.

Quick heat up to glowing then let cool anneals it.
Don't quench!

Interesting. Guess the question is whether bullets sitting at a stable temperature would ever harden, and if so, how long that would take. Anyone a metallurgist on here?

 

[mtmuley]

Interesting. Guess the question is whether bullets sitting at a stable temperature would ever harden, and if so, how long that would take. Anyone a metallurgist on here?

Google. Doesn't look to be an issue. mtmuley