I bought my ELs in 2007. I had them refurbished last year with new glass for $250. Best money I have spent on hunting gear.I’m far from rich, but I’m guessing the guys who poo poo Swarovski as just paying for the name haven’t actually used them. Same with Leica and Zeiss My SLCs are probably the best money I ever spent. Those used SLCs are far better glass than a pair of vortex for a similar price.