Not sure if that’s a relevant question...How many animals that you shot with VLDs required follow up shots and/or major tracking?
Obviously I trusted mtmuley not to blame the bullet in the case of poor shot placement. There’s a reason he didn’t answer the question.Not sure if that’s a relevant question...
I killed a mule deer with one shot using match grade Barnes... perfect heart shot the bullet disintegrated and had essentially 0% weight renention.
I also took a shitty shot on a bedded elk using partitions that required tracking and a follow up, in both of those cases the shooter was the limiting factor.
If it was me I would be think... worst case scenario last day huge bull comes in... dense willows and my only shot is a head on chest shot at 80 yards...
1. Do I even take the shot...
2. What do I want to be shooting in that situation.
I will be hunting elk this year with 120grn etips... this won’t be my first or last elk hunt so I have no problem passing on questionable shots. If I was hunting moose I would probably call hammer and get 160 grain copper for my rifle or go with 140grain a-frames.
I’ll be honest, in the moment I’m taking the questionable shot on the moose... and I want a bullet that can wade through meat.
Really? That’s interesting. I’ve witnessed a lot of kills from VLD’s and the furthest an animal has made it is maybe 30 yards with most being DRT.
At least you’re willing say it.
Bullet is 7mm 180grn hunting vld at 3050FPS> Only had the gun since 2011or 2012 those VLDS killed 6 Bull ELK, 1 Bighorn sheep, 2 antelope, 1 ORYX, 1 muledeer. All dead right there DRT. Almost every shot was a passthru. I can only remember two bullets not passing thru.
I shoot a 6.5 X 284. Bullets have been going anywhere from 2880 to 2950 MV. I shot the 140 grain VLD hunting bullet. I shot a coues deer at 409 yards. Hit is exactly where you would want to hit a deer. Right on the crease just below halfway up. The deer got drunk and fell over. We went over to the deer about 30 minutes later to see the deer get up and start down the hill. We ended up shooting the deer with our handguns to finally kill the animal. The exit hole was maybe the size of a dime and the internal damage was minimal at best.Really? That’s interesting. I’ve witnessed a lot of kills from VLD’s and the furthest an animal has made it is maybe 30 yards with most being DRT.
What caliber and bullet was this?
One thing to note with Berger’s many people chose the wrong bullet weight for their caliber.
I wouldn’t recommend other “match grade” bullets for hunting. The Bergers weren’t originally designed for hunting, but they are somewhat unique and now they are tested with hunting in mind. When they thickened the original jacket to handle longer barrels with tighter twists and higher velocities those bullets didn’t perform well on their testing, and thus they had to split product lines. The orange box and the yellow box are different bullets, and do perform differently. In the case of other match bullets, the manufacturers generally specifically advise against using them on game.Recurve
Your experience seems to be what some have also experienced. I personally have not and have confidence in Berger as well as other match grade bullets for hunting. The internal damage caused by them that I have witnessed is devastating. I’ve had multiple DRT kills with a variety of calibers also.
I agree there is no perfect bullet and everyone needs to choose what they are confident in for their chosen rifle and game.