Nameless Range
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Bow and Deliver
A tip of my Stetson to Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and U.S. Senator Joe Manchin for reminding me what political courage and a love of democracy looks like.



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I'm sure it is highly unlikely, but I do like that he, an R, is bringing forth a recognition that residents are not being served by this administration or arguably, the system at base as it is configured politically.
Without Joe Munchkin, we could be enjoying another round of helicopter money spraying down from the heavens and buying stuff that is going up in price faster than the money rains down!! Oh the joy that would have been huh hank?Joe Munchkin is a total sellout to oil & gas and the drug cartels. Clown could care less about anyone.
Don't know about the MT guy, but he has the same screw you look to me.
So it's OK for them to give welfare for the wealthy. But if you are not it's an entitlement.Without Joe Munchkin, we could be enjoying another round of helicopter money spraying down from the heavens and buying stuff that is going up in price faster than the money rains down!! Oh the joy that would have been huh hank?
Anyway back on task. I’m on board with the commission being elected, more importantly the director should be elected. The commission I thought did as good as they could this year with the crap the director threw at them.
You are much smarter than me so I suspect you are right. Thinking out loud I guess. Just seems like the majority of Montanans could have a say on wildlife management instead of voting for what they feel is best for their family job or state.This only puts the gas pedal to the floor in terms of politicizing wildlife management.
Refresh my memory. Are the commissioners there at the whim of the governor or appointed for specific terms? Do they have to be confirmed by the legislature? I would be in favor of them being elected for fixed terms staggered to overlap so there's never an entirely new commission. Oh, and toss that landed aristocrat bullshit that requires 4 of seven to be at least 600 acre landowners. Embarrassing that any American democratic body could approve something so arrogant and totally undemocratic. Something Putin would do. The Founding Fathers would shit themselves.
You are much smarter than me so I suspect you are right. Thinking out loud I guess. Just seems like the majority of Montanans could have a say on wildlife management instead of voting for what they feel is best for their family job or state.
In my lifetime I have not seen a change for the better it’s been a downhill slide from the start. We keep fighting to keep things shitty. The system isn’t working.Montanans do have a say on how wildlife management works in their state, moreso than a lot of other states thanks to a few key pieces of constitutional law, and state statute.
1.) Montana's right to participate is super strong, so we have the ability to change course even when we know the deck is stacked against us (re: season setting 6 weeks ago - major victory for the people). That right is always under threat though.
2.) Montana's right to a clean and healthful environment means we have policies and laws that reflect this right, including the Montana Environmental Policy Act (it's been weakened) that provides the opportunity to weight in before actions happen, and change the direction of those activities.
3.) Montana's right to harvest also secures our right in so much that we can lean on that if the right to harvest is reduced by agency or legislative means.
4.) Montana's statutory policy is to benefit the citizens of the state, not wealthy, non-resident landowners.
The appointed Commission system has worked well across the US for about 100 years. One bad Governor doesn't necessarily mean we change long-standing tradition and governance. It means we double our efforts to be engaged and part of the solution.
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No, answers are not there. What is the length of their term? Do the appointments have to be confirmed by the legislature?It's literally in post #2.
The Founding Fathers made sure only white males who owned property could vote, so, yeah.
I also have to wonder what would have been the backlash if the commission wouldn’t have gone in and generally “fixed” the directors proposals? There would have been a lot of angry sportsman but that’s about it. Maybe a ballot initiative? Just seems like if the governor would have picked a group of tyrants than Montanans would have been up crap creek without a paddle. I would prefer an elected commission with terms to keep a more diverse group of commissioners in place and keep them from getting “Andrew McKean’d” when the admin turnsoverMontanans do have a say on how wildlife management works in their state, moreso than a lot of other states thanks to a few key pieces of constitutional law, and state statute.
1.) Montana's right to participate is super strong, so we have the ability to change course even when we know the deck is stacked against us (re: season setting 6 weeks ago - major victory for the people). That right is always under threat though.
2.) Montana's right to a clean and healthful environment means we have policies and laws that reflect this right, including the Montana Environmental Policy Act (it's been weakened) that provides the opportunity to weight in before actions happen, and change the direction of those activities.
3.) Montana's right to harvest also secures our right in so much that we can lean on that if the right to harvest is reduced by agency or legislative means.
4.) Montana's statutory policy is to benefit the citizens of the state, not wealthy, non-resident landowners.
The appointed Commission system has worked well across the US for about 100 years. One bad Governor doesn't necessarily mean we change long-standing tradition and governance. It means we double our efforts to be engaged and part of the solution.
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The ever present political and ideological decisions by the Governor and the Legislature are what have been adversely impacting viable and professional wildlife management and hunting regulations and policies in the best interests of wildlife and Montana's valued hunting legacy.The system isn’t working.