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Bowhunters - not a big impact?
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Rack Daniels
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To compensate, Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks proposed issuing only 500 archery-only pronghorn hunting permits in Region 3
What does this mean since it’s a statewide 900 tag? I understand the following portion about certain districts in 3 not being eligible for the archery only hunt opportunity but how are they limiting the 500 in those areas? Call-in quota?
Even at that distance animals can jump the string.
Bowhunting is just a poor way to kill critters.
huntin24/7
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I love bowhunting, but it takes a big toll in MT, particularly for antelope and elk. I’m amazed at how many guys I talk to that don’t seem to have any concern about flinging arrows and wounding. Im not going to be a total hypocrite. I’ve wounded before with quick shot opportunities I shouldn’t have taken and felt pretty shitty about it.
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Bowhunting is awesome. This topic isn’t saying otherwise.
Me too, unfortunately. I make myself remember these situations that I chose every time I go out. I think twice and three times now before any shot. The animal deserves it IMO.
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How many did you wound before you came to this opinion? Be honest
I used to get the yearly stats by a local outfitter off a well known ranch locally. Their overall recovery rate over the years was less than 50%. Going by memory, quite a bit less.
All my friends bow hunt. I used to. I'm for bowhunting and bowhunters (though you could make a pretty good case a compound bow, while a vicious little machine, is not really a bow - but I digress lol). I got a bit of grief on another thread for suggesting a hunter in Montana should have to pick his weapon. Rifle or bow - not both. I'm still of that opinion. I think it would go a long way to improving the quality of hunting in MT, since FWP can't seem to get that done.
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I honestly think hunting all around is getting worse for animals based on numbers. People getting into hunting that don’t have any idea what it takes to be successful. Too many guys go buy a new bow, all the crap, and shoot the range a little and expect to make a shot hunting. I tell everyone I practice any kind of shooting with to expect a 30% “oh shit” factor. Shooting paper or a foam target hundreds of times doesn’t help a bunch when your heart is beating out of your chest, your decision making is lacking and everything goes out the window.
That said, at least the guys that practice have a chance. I know guys that hunt that barely practice, archery or firearm. They don’t even have a baseline to fall back to. One guy in particular I’m related to consistently takes 300 yard shots and never hits anything, blames his ammo, scope, gun, anyone who’s close, but when asked he usually shoots 1-2 rounds the night before the season to make sure his gun is “on”. He called me a month ago to look for a buck he was sure he hit, when he told me how far I just laughed and he got pissed. No blood, found the bullet impact at 325, I told him it’s too far for him to be shooting because he doesn’t practice and he told me his new scope is junk. I told him at least he got lucky and had a clean miss and didn’t cripple the poor buck. I don’t think he’ll call me for help anymore.
That said, at least the guys that practice have a chance. I know guys that hunt that barely practice, archery or firearm. They don’t even have a baseline to fall back to. One guy in particular I’m related to consistently takes 300 yard shots and never hits anything, blames his ammo, scope, gun, anyone who’s close, but when asked he usually shoots 1-2 rounds the night before the season to make sure his gun is “on”. He called me a month ago to look for a buck he was sure he hit, when he told me how far I just laughed and he got pissed. No blood, found the bullet impact at 325, I told him it’s too far for him to be shooting because he doesn’t practice and he told me his new scope is junk. I told him at least he got lucky and had a clean miss and didn’t cripple the poor buck. I don’t think he’ll call me for help anymore.
SaskHunter
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Did you guys see? Jelly Roll is into archery now, better start lobbing arrows at stuff too!!!
#JellyRoller #Hoyt #CamHanes #ShootToMaim
#JellyRoller #Hoyt #CamHanes #ShootToMaim
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Only reason he has the bow is due to not being able to have firearms. I saw a thing saying he is trying to get his rights to have a gun back
Carnage2011
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Good for him. Hopefully he has some success and appreciates the experience outdoors.
I would not doubt a recovery rate of less than 50%.I used to get the yearly stats by a local outfitter off a well known ranch locally. Their overall recovery rate over the years was less than 50%. Going by memory, quite a bit less.
All my friends bow hunt. I used to. I'm for bowhunting and bowhunters (though you could make a pretty good case a compound bow, while a vicious little machine, is not really a bow - but I digress lol). I got a bit of grief on another thread for suggesting a hunter in Montana should have to pick his weapon. Rifle or bow - not both. I'm still of that opinion. I think it would go a long way to improving the quality of hunting in MT, since FWP can't seem to get that done.
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To me bow hunting is just unethical. In addition most of the guys that have gotten into it do so because of the special treatment bowhunters recieve. It just needs to go away.
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Admit it. You just hate archery. Just so you know, I got into bow hunting because of the challenge and being able to spend more time in the woods. I don't know anything about any "special treatment". Did I lose any deer? Yes. I've also lost some during shotgun slug season. Shit happens. It happens eventually to EVERYONE! Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it needs to go away. Hell, I don't like pineapple. By your logic we should do away with them. Neither one is going to happen.
Bowhuntrben
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I tend to do a better job shooting with archery than with a gun. With a bow, I know I have to make a good shot. With a gun, I think I get too excited and shoot too quick. I am in a shotgun area, and my shots tend to be close encounters and not a lot of time for setup as compared to many rifle situations. I know I would've put a lot better shot on the buck I got this year if I had a bow in my hand.
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I believe that archery tags should be allocated as though they are equivalent opportunities as rifle tags, even if the success rates may not be the same.
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