Boundary waters under attack

[BrentD]

Well, the vote is in. The White House weighed in and a couple people flipped. It passed 51-49.

So much for public input. The abuse of the Congressional Review Act (CRA), used once in the first 20 years of its existence and now more than 40 times with Trump Administration 1 & 2, is disturbing. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people provided comment on these public land management plans.

Comment was secured from the public, via the laws passed by Congress. Analysis was made by the scientists of the agencies. Recommendations published for debate. Final decisions were made and published. These plans were implemented anywhere from 20 years ago to 3 years ago. To overturn via the CRA, Congress is required to act within 60 days of implementation. So much for following that law.

Regardless of how one feels about the BWCA, the lead pipe treatment given to the process of public input should bother everyone. Too bad some of these assholes will be dead when the time comes to own the bad outcomes of the decisions being made with abuse of the CRA.

God damn it! That is about a depressing as it gets.

 

[IDiot]

Looked and cant find the official vote. Want to see who I need to call tomorrow and voice my distain too.

U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 119th Congress - 2nd Session

www.senate.gov

 

[Gellar]

@Big Fin is this something that can be challenged/delayed with more litigation?

 

[Big Fin]

@Big Fin is this something that can be challenged/delayed with more litigation?

I'm not sure. The only avenue I'm aware of is to litigate the manner in which the 60-day window of the Congressional Review Act is not being followed.

 

[SAJ-99]

Danies and Sheehy were yes because of course they were always with the team. Real public land advocates those two. I laugh at those who keep believing the bullchit….

 

[Busyfarmin]

So frustrating when elected officials vote for what their party wants and not what their constituents want.

 

[IDiot]

Idaho senators also voted yes. I just hope litigation slows it enough to get a new administration in before they break ground.

 

[Big Fin]

For clarification, this vote today was the vote to proceed with the official vote tomorrow morning. Which, all the vote counters on the inside have said this is exactly how the votes will be cast on the final round in the morning.

Which makes sense. Thune is no dummy. He never lets something come for a Senate floor vote unless he knows what the vote outcome will be.

So it's not officially over until the vote tomorrow morning.

 

[Bonasababy]

For clarification, this vote today was the vote to proceed with the official vote tomorrow morning. Which, all the vote counters on the inside have said this is exactly how the votes will be cast on the final round in the morning.

Which makes sense. Thune is no dummy. He never lets something come for a Senate floor vote unless he knows what the vote outcome will be.

So it's not officially over until the vote tomorrow morning.

One of my Senators held the floor for hours in an attempt to stall.

Hope wiser heads prevail. If not tomorrow, come November.

Didn't hurt that so many NE mine supporters found out this week that Trump is using foreign steel donated by a Luxembourg outfit for his new White House ballroom. Then he gave them a tariff exemption.

This while many mine workers have been laid off due to tariff driven demand cutbacks.

 

[R.K.]

Called my senators again this morning. Daines' mailbox is full, hopefully on this issue.

 

[SAJ-99]

Daines' mailbox is full, hopefully on this issue.

Probably with calls mining companies looking hire him as a "lobbyist".

 

[Treeshark]

Probably with calls mining companies looking hire him as a "lobbyist".

Or clogged with love letters from Mike Lee.

 

[SAJ-99]

Or clogged with love letters from Mike Lee.

The thought of Mike Lee sending a “love letter” made me a little sick.

 

[Irrelevant]

Well, the vote is in. The White House weighed in and a couple people flipped. It passed 51-49.

So much for public input. The abuse of the Congressional Review Act (CRA), used once in the first 20 years of its existence and now more than 40 times with Trump Administration 1 & 2, is disturbing. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people provided comment on these public land management plans.

Comment was secured from the public, via the laws passed by Congress. Analysis was made by the scientists of the agencies. Recommendations published for debate. Final decisions were made and published. These plans were implemented anywhere from 20 years ago to 3 years ago. To overturn via the CRA, Congress is required to act within 60 days of implementation. So much for following that law.

Regardless of how one feels about the BWCA, the lead pipe treatment given to the process of public input should bother everyone. Too bad some of these assholes will be dead when the time comes to own the bad outcomes of the decisions being made with abuse of the CRA.

"Relax, everything is going to be okay" #winning #somuchwinning #tiredofityet?

 

[R.K.]

Hopefully this turns into a situation like McCain flipping last minute to preserve the ACA back in ‘17. But I doubt it.

 

[Outdoor-enthusiast24]

Never in a million years did I think I’d be watching a live congressional hearing like it’s the count down to new years lol-this is all because of you @Big Fin! Thanks for sharing your knowledge on how to try and make a difference at the political level! I hate politics but it’s what is needed for conservation!