Sheltowee
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Yeah man, so weird that people come to an Internet forum to discuss different topics. Not sure what gets into their heads.
Bill to charge foreigners more at National Parks
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mevertsen
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We even have that for resident / non resident at out State Parks here in Nevada.
Nevada resident has a rate.
Non-resident has a higher rate.
Seems that would be easy to implement.
SD_Prairie_Goat
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Agreed. Probably should have already been implemented
mevertsen
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SAJ-99
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Easier to implement State R v. NR than country. Because a lot of parks (state and National) charge fees by vehicle, states can use vehicle license plates, and some might use state drivers licenses. The simplest way I can think of is to use the billing "zip" code on the credit card. Certainly not perfect but probably the cheapest.
The idea is possible, and fine, I guess. But it seems like a distraction. Where are we going to get the other $22.5 billion?
SD_Prairie_Goat
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Seems like most the changes result in small dollars that are some how supposed to turn into billions...
Also, one political jab so HT don't go crazy. Obviously the other missing billions is going to come from tariffs!
SAJ-99
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Also, the richest nation in the world is trying to squeeze fees from foreign visitors so it can empty the shitters.
Brittany Chukarman
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They already do if you have a senior pass.
Carnage2011
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Who cares? It’s our country…if you want to come here and enjoy then you can pay a few extra bucks. There’s 4 million visitors to Yellowstone each year. If half are from other countries and they pay an extra $5 each, that’s an easy $10million dollar surplus. An extra $5-10 isn’t squeezing anything out of them. If they can afford to fly here and stay in West/Gardiner then they will be fine.
MTGamecock
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It doesn't seem all that complicated to police. Raise the entry fee to $50 per vehicle. If the driver shows a US driver's licence, the fee is $35 per vehicle. Anybody who doesn't want to show an ID is free to pay the full price for entry.
Would a few foreign tourists slip through because their driver has a US licence? Sure, some "slip throughs" are baked into the cake.
As for tour buses, I assume they would collect their occupants' entry fees the same way they do now (somewhere other than the entry gate).
Would a few foreign tourists slip through because their driver has a US licence? Sure, some "slip throughs" are baked into the cake.
As for tour buses, I assume they would collect their occupants' entry fees the same way they do now (somewhere other than the entry gate).
SAJ-99
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More ironic is that the Montana members missed the comedic point of the post in replies and in doing so confirm the Senate got the right people to write the bill.
Edit: it should be pointed out that PERC came up with the idea for them.
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the nikster
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2001. While visiting the Winter Palace in St Petersburg, I was astounded to hear the teller request the same number of rubles from every person in front of me, only to quadruple the fee when I approached. I expressed concern that, as a foreigner I was being charged more. She said I was NOT being charged more, the locals were getting a discount….!
Raise the entrance fee across the board.
Offer a discount to any that produce a ‘local’ ID.
I kinda like the logic.
Raise the entrance fee across the board.
Offer a discount to any that produce a ‘local’ ID.
I kinda like the logic.
Forkyfinder
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Exactly.
Bryerific
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Already standard for passes. Here it is off the YNP website:
Entrance Passes
For all annual passes, the pass holder must be present with identification for entry into Yellowstone National Park.
Fees & Passes - Yellowstone National Park (U.S. National Park Service)
The entrance fees and passes support visitor services in Yellowstone National Park. Academic waivers are available.
I was hoping it would be enough to dissuade certain ones from coming, with the goal being less foreign visitation, from certain parts of the world, instead of more revenue.
They are American’s parks and they aren’t made better by swarms of hurried, pushy, FaceTiming in public while oblivious to their surroundings, umbrellas in your face in a crowded area when it’s not raining, worst drivers in the world, wildlife approaching groups of people with no idea of personal space.
Our western Canadian brothers and sisters should be exempt of course.
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Justabirdwatcher
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Just here for this guy...
I was just there last week and it was astounding to see the level of abuse by foreign visitors. Going off the boardwalks to retrieve hats, driving (don't get me started), encroaching on wildlife, campground abuse, etc. I see no problem in having foreign visitors pay a higher fee. It is just like NR hunting costs.
It was so bad, I asked my family, "have we loved Yellowstone to death"?
Justabirdwatcher
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I think some of the Americans are just as bad. It's just more noticeable when the bad behavior is committed by a foreigner. I could be wrong, but that's my theory. Human nature is human nature. All around the world. A certain % of humans are just disrespectful twats.
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