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166 Hammer Hunters work pretty good in my .30-06 if you can't find any of those. For short range work, the Stone Hammer is proving deadly. mtmuleyI don't have a bullet in hand to check expansion. The "field" test is 100+-lb hog at 100+ yds. No pass through. Hog dropped where he stood and was left for the buzzards.

Yep, your right on that one but if you don't ask,,, it's been a clown show from the start. He needed some copper in a hurry so I threw together a couple different loads with a couple different bullets at oem specs. These grouped unbelievable for no testing. Then he says I'm moving back to Oklahoma next week can he get a hundred or so. I only have 53 left and no time to work something up especially because I don't have the rifle in hand. Simplest solution is to find some bullets that probably don't exist.I seriously doubt you will find more of the seconds. Maybe. Good luck. mtmuley