RUT JUNKEY
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...I'm scared/shocked that she still has people who will vote for her...maybe they are just scared if they don't they will accidently shoot themselves in the back of the head 3 times...
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Nemont
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Any deplorable people on the left?
I can think of many yet somehow half of all Trump supporters are deplorable? Can you find any where that Trump has said he agrees with the KKK, Alt-right or Fascistic(?) elements?
I think Trump is a cartoon character and won't cast my ballot for him but I cannot vote for Hillary.
As for her health, it wouldn't be a question if there were no so many mysterious "medical events" in her history.
Something is going on with her medically and it is a concern for somebody who will be in the position of power.
https://youtu.be/Zr1IDQ2V1eM?t=72
I can think of several deplorable people all throughout the political spectrum.
But let's take her comments in context, as well as her apology:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...-half-of-trump-supporters-are-deplorable.html
The Deplorable comment:
The rest of what she said (which I believe fits the majority of people voting for Trump):
And here's the apology:
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/774671254850772992/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
Now, as to you wanting some concrete evidence of Trump encouraging or supporting the Deplorables, there's his anti-hispanic & muslim comments, his blatant sexism towards people like Megyn Kelly, his own daughters, and many others, his courting of the "alt-right" movement through hiring one of the editors of Brietbart, a leading alt-right sight which is well known to foment racial distrust and dog-whistle racist politics. Those are the examples that come to mind immediatley.
And now we also have his hiring of the Citizens United CEO who helped unleash corporate cash in our politics, bringing us to the edge of possibly electing a person who would rather discriminate against entire religions, violating their first amendment rights in favor of false security.
I get you don't like Hillary. I'm not much of a fan either, but as we've hashed out over and over, between those two choices, I choose the one who won't try and emulate Mussolini's attempts to get the trains to run on time.
You vote your conscience, and I'll do the same. I'll still love you in the morning. I promise.
Zach
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Humor fixes everything, eh Ben...
Nemont
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Ben,
I get it you don't like Trump, voting for the lesser of two evils still equals voting for one evil. Trump's coziness with the Citizens United CEO is significant, how about Hillary's coziness with the people who now throw wheel barrows of money through the door that was opened by Citizens United? Hillary is just like President Obama neither have met a Wall Street donor they didn't love. The fact that Trump is making it a race should be scaring any thinking liberal to death. It means that the Democrats have nominated a highly flawed Candidate who is struggling against a guy like Trump. In this race the winner will be in the end, the loser. The reason is which ever one wins will not be able to govern effectively and we have a lost four years.
How anyone, in good conscience, can cast a ballot for either of these two is beyond me. It matters little how I vote, Trump will win Montana by a wide margin, it is the down ticket races that will be competitive.
Nemont
I get it you don't like Trump, voting for the lesser of two evils still equals voting for one evil. Trump's coziness with the Citizens United CEO is significant, how about Hillary's coziness with the people who now throw wheel barrows of money through the door that was opened by Citizens United? Hillary is just like President Obama neither have met a Wall Street donor they didn't love. The fact that Trump is making it a race should be scaring any thinking liberal to death. It means that the Democrats have nominated a highly flawed Candidate who is struggling against a guy like Trump. In this race the winner will be in the end, the loser. The reason is which ever one wins will not be able to govern effectively and we have a lost four years.
How anyone, in good conscience, can cast a ballot for either of these two is beyond me. It matters little how I vote, Trump will win Montana by a wide margin, it is the down ticket races that will be competitive.
Nemont
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I agree about the Wall street influence, and it's been the biggest disappointment I've had with the CIC and w/ Hillary, but you also don't change the system by railing against it, as Senator Sanders has shown. You are politely shown the door, and given your participation award. it's inside where you can make the most difference, and regardless of major policy fails like ACA, I'd still rather have this president than McCain or Romney.
Trump's vote margin in MT isn't as big as people think. Congressional Quarterly just listed the MT AL race as a possible pickup for Dems, so Trump's tailcoats don't really help down-ticket candidates. In fact, it's driving people away, which is exactly why the MTGOP tried to get Gary Johnson & other libertarians off of the ballot: They're worried about voter flight from their own party - and they should be.
As for the voting for the lesser of two evils, I can't think of one election in our 240 year history where we've had pure candidates. This election is the least pure, to be sure, but it's par for the course, especially in a nation that idolizes reality stars and sports figures over scientists and teachers.
noharleyyet
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There is nothing in printed word or recorded sound byte more profound than a Hillary apology...thank you Ben.
...and quit posting pics of Dinkshooter.
...and quit posting pics of Dinkshooter.
Amid the plethora of conspiracy theories regarding the madame's health events are those suggesting body doubles...you be the judge.
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Nemont
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I don't want purity in a candidate or a politician (or a client for that matter), pure people are fake, in fact I want somebody who has experienced some difficulties in life and had to make some correct choice in difficult circumstances. Every time Clinton had the chance to pick the correct side of any issue she has always chosen poorly. She voted for the Iraq war, even with all her caveats, she still voted Yea. Now she says it was a mistake. She decided on a private server to control her email traffic and that blew up in her face and now she says that was a mistake. She fully supported knocking off Qaddafi and now that action is viewed as the biggest mistake of President Obama's time in office. She opposed going after bin Laden and that would have been a mistake ( in my view it is the single guttiest thing President Obama did). I am hard pressed to find a single time that when she was faced with a difficult choice that she has chosen correctly. Look at her health, there was already a growing rumor mill about her medical history. She had "pneumonia" but didn't think it was that big of a deal.
I don't give any support to Trump because I disagree with him on many issues but it still boggles my mind that smart people still support Hillary. She has a long history of not accomplishing much of anything on her own. Perhaps staying married to Bill is reward enough.
Nemont
I don't give any support to Trump because I disagree with him on many issues but it still boggles my mind that smart people still support Hillary. She has a long history of not accomplishing much of anything on her own. Perhaps staying married to Bill is reward enough.
Nemont
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Because's she's not nearly as poorly informed, uneducated, foolish, temperamental, dangerous, authoritarian and narcissistic as the other guy.
It's pretty simple.
Nemont
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She is also dealing with a medical issue, is a known liar, a poor decision maker, willing to use her time at State to Feather her and Bill's nest and has a track record of failure starting back in her days as a Goldwater girl.
Nemont
Nemont
The GOP had every effort to nominate someone better.
They chose Donald Trump.
FYI: I voted for Jeb in the primary.
Nemont
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I don't agree with the Republican's choice either. Hell Bernie would beat both of these two like rented mules.
Nemont
What I find curious is that we are told that Clinton and Trump are the most disliked presidential candidate ever. What does that tell you about all the other people who were running during the primary? If that is true how did they get the majority of votes to become the two candidates?
Nemont
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You must live in a cave if you think "the GOP chose Trump" Good god man, the GOP did everything they could to knock him out. The People chose him, not the GOP, get it straight.
Elkmagnet
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The GOP is every bit their members as the DEM party is. Both have primaries, both chose their candidates, both had the delegates vote for that person. If the GOP establishment really wanted to knock him out, they could have done it through convoluted procedure. It would have caused a third party run by Trump, ensuring a Clinton victory, but rather than choose that option, the GOP establishment/leadership, whatever, agreed to him, because their ultimate goal isn't responsible governing, it's just holding power.
