long story short, we didn't draw where we wanted in the initial drawing and couldn't come to a decision on a couple leftover units before they sold out yesterday. as a last resort I'm looking at trying to find a ranch to hunt in mid-October in 23 or 24. the only reason I'm still trying is this will be my son's first out of state big game hunt. I have a ranch list but everyone I've called has either not answered, has no availability or wants their name taken off the list because they are not allowing hunting. does anyone know of a ranch in one of these units that would be worth a 21 hour drive to go hunt that's not expensive as heck?