Optimized for the AR platform, correct? mtmuley
Who’s got a 6 arc?
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Arcola
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For someone that hand-loads and in a bolt gun, BR, Dasher, or GT are better options in my opinion. I have the latter two and they have been very easy to tune and produce very minimal recoil. Also had a HOWA mini in 6arc. Didn’t care for the mini platform at all.
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Is there a reason why you would like the arc over a dasher?
One of my hunting partners looked very hard at building a 6 Arc. In the end he ended up going the 6 dasher route.
One of my hunting partners looked very hard at building a 6 Arc. In the end he ended up going the 6 dasher route.
Point Creep
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Why would I want a dasher? Is there good brass available?
I appreciate all the other options but nobody yet is telling me what’s the downside of 6 arc.
There’s a zero chance for me to buy a howa.
kodiakisland
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I got a mini 6ARC for my grandson. After shooting it out to 600yds, it’s no longer my grandson’s. Suppressed it’s almost too fun.
There’s better choices for a true long range 6mm, but inside 600yds it holds its own.
It’s there in the middle:
There’s better choices for a true long range 6mm, but inside 600yds it holds its own.
It’s there in the middle:
Sounds like a good reason for a 22 arc. 88 grain eldm or tmk 2800-2900fps. Flatter trajectory and same or less wind drift as 6arc.
Point Creep
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That would be nice but would the .22 88eldm be keeping up with 110 or 120 6mm Atips?
Here’s 90 grain atip vs the 110 atip. The 90 wins wind drift and velocity but it’s not by enough to worry about. But by drop it wins by quite a bit which isn’t a big deal with rangefinders and dialing
What magazine are you using for the arc case on the tikka?
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Looks like the PODs ones from guy on rokslide that prints them.
Yep, 3 round mags from Pods on Rokslide. They feed great from waters 223 mags as well.
It’ll be efficient and have low, though not zero recoil. As Wind Gypsy mentioned you won’t get high velocity in a short barrel without going to the ball powders. With the bullets you mentioned you would get pretty decent performance even at lower velocity.
Dasher is a good round with excellent brass, so is a GT. Each has a bit more capacity for a bit more velocity, all else being equal. They also use a much more common bolt face.
22 Arc is good too, just a different compromise. I am favoring the selection of 6mm bullets (vs 22) at this moment in time.
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Because it’s a standard bolt face, can push heavies at a reasonable speed without standing on it but you’re still talking burning like 30-32 grains of powder only. Alpha brass is current standard, used to be fireformed Lapua 6BR brass. Lapua announced 6 Dasher brass coming like 2 years ago, not sure if it's even hit the shelves yet? Been the darling of PRS for a while and won a whole bunch of LR benchrest as well. Can basically expect to buy one powder and known bullet and know it will shoot.
Oddball bolt face that only works for ARCs, Grendel, or PPC. Low velocity if you want to shoot heavies without a long barrel.
Point Creep
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Thanks for all the tips everyone. If I’m not planning to swap barrels/chamberings, does the non standard bolt face matter?
Not really if you never plan on swapping things in the future and are starting with a fresh build
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My 22ARC is the funnest rifle I own right now. The 75 ELD-M has been great and I plan to test the 88’s over the next month.
I will likely put together a 6ARC or 6Creed in the near future though. I waffle back and forth on each. If they release factory 6ARC ammunition in the plus peak it would be a no brainer then for a factory shooter.
Since you reload, I would go 6ARC personally. I don’t know if this video is apples to apples for the 6ARC vs 6Creed, but I’d imagine you could get close to 6Creed performance by hand loading the 6ARC, similar to the 22ARC vs 22Creed in this video:
I will likely put together a 6ARC or 6Creed in the near future though. I waffle back and forth on each. If they release factory 6ARC ammunition in the plus peak it would be a no brainer then for a factory shooter.
Since you reload, I would go 6ARC personally. I don’t know if this video is apples to apples for the 6ARC vs 6Creed, but I’d imagine you could get close to 6Creed performance by hand loading the 6ARC, similar to the 22ARC vs 22Creed in this video:
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@Point Creep if you arent going with a howa mini or ar15 - why not go 6 gt?
22/6 arc have lower pressure factory ammo because it goes in an ar15. If you arent getting that (semi auto) or the shorter action (like a mini) i dont see the advantage.
22/6 arc have lower pressure factory ammo because it goes in an ar15. If you arent getting that (semi auto) or the shorter action (like a mini) i dont see the advantage.
No personal experience with it, but another option for a mini action
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Only if you're hoping to find an action in stock, vs ordering and waiting for them to build it. You could still find a ARC bolt face action somewhere on the shelf, it's just a little less likely.
