Ukraine / Russia

[BigHornRam]

If we require something for war it should be made in the US or by a NATO ally.

We depend on Taiwan heavily for our smart weapons. Gotta change fast....

"TSMC: how a Taiwanese chipmaker became a linchpin of the global economy | Financial Times" https://www.ft.com/content/05206915-fd73-4a3a-92a5-6760ce965bd9

 

[Irrelevant]

Russian weapons in Ukraine ‘powered’ by Western parts: Report

Russian weapons recovered in Ukraine contained more than 450 foreign-made components, think-tank says.

www.aljazeera.com

Love that our beloved Capitalism allows for us to "profit" by providing our enemies weapons, so that we can go into debt shooting them down. Sweet.

 

[AvidIndoorsman]

Classified deterrents are also most certainly impressive, but conventional pecker measuring means nothing @wllm ...except for the fact that Putin won't engage recognizing a Marquis de Queensberry template.

Love your scorecard tho...

I kinda would argue the opposite... if you both have nukes then all that matters is your conventional weapons as those as what you will be using in proxy wars... this is just Cold War part II after a brief Gorbi induced intermission.

 

[Handlebar]

The idea that a bunch of dudes can sit around and discuss how "they don't have this or we got more", and they know better than to mess with us is ludicrous.
In Afghanistan the worst day was 30 KIA, y'all really think the American public has got the stomach to go toe to toe with a near peer over a country that most could not find on a map.

 

[AvidIndoorsman]

Russian weapons in Ukraine ‘powered’ by Western parts: Report

Russian weapons recovered in Ukraine contained more than 450 foreign-made components, think-tank says.

www.aljazeera.com

Love that our beloved Capitalism allows for us to "profit" by providing our enemies weapons, so that we can go into debt shooting them down. Sweet.

Borrowing money from China to increase the value of your stock in Lockheed.

 

[Irrelevant]

near peer

BALAHAHAHAHA

 

[AvidIndoorsman]

He doesn't need to drop, or cruise, or torpedo, a whole bunch...

Whole premise of MADD + the Nuclear Triad, he can't get them all and if he launches one we launch everything. There is no proportionality in nuclear war... which is the whole point, and basically why we don't use tactically weapons.

Not a line anyone wants to walk.

 

[noharleyyet]

I kinda would argue the opposite... if you both have nukes then all that matters is your conventional weapons as those as what you will be using in proxy wars... this is just Cold War part II after a brief Gorbi induced intermission.

Insomuch as Putin knows it would be the end...no spoils, no dacha, nyet. It's not complicated enough to argue about.

But let's do this for starters, let's at the very least not worry about Putin's energy...let's recover our own.

-a casual observer

 

[BigHornRam]

The idea that a bunch of dudes can sit around and discuss how "they don't have this or we got more", and they know better than to mess with us is ludicrous.
In Afghanistan the worst day was 30 KIA, y'all really think the American public has got the stomach to go toe to toe with a near peer over a country that most could not find on a map.

Yea but we are more woke than those savages, so that counts for a lot.......

 

[AvidIndoorsman]

y'all really think the American public has got the stomach to go toe to toe with a near peer over a country that most could not find on a map.

Nuclear powers don't go toe to toe.

You get a proxy war, and/or diplomatic solutions.

China won't go to war with the US for Taiwan or vise versa... they might communicate that they are going to invade, and that we have x number of years to change our supply chains, and offered us something in return, then we gracefully cut ties with Taiwan and China moves in... or something like that.

 

[VikingsGuy]

If we require something for war it should be made in the US or by a NATO ally.

Would be nice - not sure it is actually the case when you get past a superficial level. Just look at rare earth metals as a starting place.

 

[BigHornRam]

Insomuch as Putin knows it would be the end...no spoils, no dacha, nyet. It's not complicated enough to argue about.

But let's do this for starters, let's at the very least not worry about Putin's energy...let's recover our own.

-a casual observer

How about more IRS agents to shake us down instead?

 

[VikingsGuy]

Nuclear powers don't go toe to toe.

You get a proxy war, and/or diplomatic solutions.

China won't go to war with the US for Taiwan or vise versa... they might communicate that they are going to invade, and that we have x number of years to change our supply chains, and offered us something in return, then we gracefully cut ties with Taiwan and China moves in... or something like that.

I suggest we negotiate a Hong Kong style turnover that lasts 15-20 yrs. Plenty of time for us to build own chip infrastructure and for locals to move if they want to.

 

[AvidIndoorsman]

I suggest we negotiate a Hong Kong style turnover that lasts 15-20 yrs. Plenty of time for us to build own chip infrastructure and for locals to move if they want to.

Exactly my thinking and I would bet what we are doing.

 

[Handlebar]

BALAHAHAHAHA

US Air Force’s view of ‘near-peer’ Russia unchanged by war in Ukraine

Russia’s failure to swiftly overrun Ukraine has shown Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall that Russia remains a “near-peer” nation.

www.airforcetimes.com

 

[VikingsGuy]

Exactly my thinking and I would bet what we are doing.

I doubt it. Too many vested interests willing to leak for it to stay a secret.

 

[AvidIndoorsman]

I doubt it. Too many vested interests willing to leak for it to stay a secret.

I guess I just assume that Biden/Trump/ Pelosi are a bunch of morons and that the real string pullers don't tell them shit lol

 

[noharleyyet]

I guess I just assume that Biden/Trump/ Pelosi are a bunch of morons and that the real string pullers don't tell them shit lol...

...meet ya for a handshake.

 

[rwc101]

I have my doubts that Taiwan looks at what's happened in HK and thinks it's an acceptable outcome.

 

[LWC55]

How about more IRS agents to shake us down instead?

What they gonna do with 5 million boolits?

Supersizing an incompetent, unaccountable IRS

The reconciliation bill Democrats rushed through congress calls for $80 billion in new IRS funding so the agency can hire as many as 87,000 new agents and auditors.

www.washingtontimes.com