My son loves his Winchester 1300 12gage. He has several rifles more suited for bear,7mm,300mag,308 Norma mag, but he picks the 12. He got another black (light chocolate brown), not a bad Montana bear ,six footer.Early in the day he mist a nice jet black one with a white strip over his shoulders,but on his hike back to his truck he came across this one. the bear was so intent on eating berries he was able to slip up to eight yards.One 1 1/8oz slug between the shoulders put him down HARD .The food was still in his mouth!!!