Taking long shots, part 2

[shoots-straight]

Here's an exit wound found on a tree from cow elk my boy shot last year. He uses a .270 with 130 grain speer hot core.

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[Calif. Hunter]

I agree with Buzz. Besides, energy does not kill - blood loss together with tissue and organ destruction kill. All that energy (umpteen thousand footpounds) ought to knock a 150 pound deer 12 feet!

 

[T Bone]

I've killed one buck at long range. 450ish yards. 30-06 with 165 grain Horny btsp. 1st shot he hunched and stood there. 2nd shot he jumped, staggered around like a drunk and tipped. 1st shot was guts, 2nd shot double lungs.

I like Hornady Interlocks, I've recovered a couple from my 270 out of deer. Both recovered bullets have passed length wise and crunched heavy bone. I've shot 165,180 and 190 Horn Interlocks out of my 30-06 and 300 win and have yet to recover a bullet out of an animal.

Even though I think Hornady's Interlock is better than most cup and core bullets, I think Partitions are tough to beat.

I bought a pile of the 308 150 grn Partition Golds when they were on close out. From what I understand the "Gold" model of the partition is built a bit more stout than the standard Partition. My lightweight 30-06 really shoots them well. It's killed a few deer, a sheep and a goat with them. All were complete pass throughs. This years billy goat was quartering away sharply, entry in the ham, hit femur, muscle, guts, vitals and left a nickle sized exit in the brisket.

 

[Don Taylor]

Having read these posts this topic seems to be a (this has always worked for me kind of thing) so I thought I might as well throw in my two cents. Ive shot game with premium bullets and with run of the mill remington core locks. On deer size animals i'll take the core locks or other soft point constructed bullets everytime. I shot a fairly large whitetail 3 years ago with a partition that I loaded up for caribou I was building a new house and after returning from the caribou hunt didnt take the time to re-zero to the 150 ballistic tips I usually shoot out of my 7mm rem. Anyway I poked this deer through the ribs at about 125 yds and he took off like hell. I finally got him dead at arond 285 and a few shots. As I walked up to this buck I noticed a lack of much blood. When I skinned it looked as though a practice pointed arrow had gone through him, I decided partitions were not deer bullets. I have also seen a deer shot with a 87 grn v-max out of a 243 ( my usual coyote round) during a youth hunt that died like the hand of zeues had smashed him. Ive shot elk with the partion but thought it maybe a little to much out of my 338 rum and this year used the accubond in my 300 rum and was impressed with the results, stone dead. The caribou I shot with partions at 337 yds (ranged) in my 7 mag convinced me that a corelock would have been a better choice. I guess Im just not convinced that the swift A frames, partitions, and bullets of like design really have anything over the interlock,corelock type bullets on elk size game and smaller. Im still thinking I would I load up partions for brown bear,moose etc but the softpoint type bullets still work as good or better and cost much less to load. I have been handloading for about 20 yrs or so, use several different calibers and have taken my share of game and this has been my experience. One other thing that seems to be overlooked here is that an arrow kills by hemeroage (bleeding) and a bullet kills by hydrolics. If you have ever made a bad shot and hit an animal in the rear quarters and noticed blood on the nose that is because of the hydrolic force of the bullet exploding blood vessels in the head area also pressure displacement forcing pressure to other areas of the body. Just my input.

 

[Bambistew]

I have also seen a deer shot with a 87 grn v-max out of a 243 ( my usual coyote round) during a youth hunt that died like the hand of zeues had smashed him.

I've seen the same thing on about 5-6 deer and 3-4 antelope. The thing that impressed me the most was the entrance hole. The blood shot extened about 1" all the way around, that was it. They were all broadside shots into the ribs however, or head shots. I have zero confidance in shooting through any sort of meat with them.

 

[1_pointer]

IMO, as sample of one proves very little, as whacky things do happen. Shoot 10 more deer in the same place at same distance and you might like those results better!

 

[FLIPPER]

Does the size of the animal,[say a feline species],at 254 yards in the head constitute a long range shot?

 

[Buck Fever]

Any exit wound is the product of energy not being completely expended INSIDE the animal.

Why would you not want most of the energy to be expended/absorbed INSIDE the animal instead of outside the animal on the back side in the trees and dirt.

I'm with you on that one Cuervo, you hit in on the head!!
Seems to me that guys spend more time worry about bullet weight etc... instead of making a good shot. A good shot will always end in a good story.