Sun Valley Fire pics

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Some pics from a buddy in Hailey....

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Great pics.

Every year at this time I get disgusted with the way out government deals with fires. Seems we do little to nothing to prevent them in our national forest and then throw piles of money (that we borrow from china) at the fire to put them out. The area where I live burned last year. Now all that timber will be wasted as it was never harvested for lumber and will eventually become dead fall and becomes useless debris that is in the way of any person or animal using the land. Almost no trees will exist after the fire and what was once lush forest habitat will be lost forever. There is a reason that logging companies manage property in a different way to prevent the resource being wasted as well as replanting the trees they harvest not to mention all the time and money that is wasted fighting fires in overgrown hot burning forest fires that risk peoples lives unnecessarily. Sorry about the rant but it seem like the same thing happens year after year and we don't learn from our mistakes.
 
Great pics.

Every year at this time I get disgusted with the way out government deals with fires. Seems we do little to nothing to prevent them in our national forest and then throw piles of money (that we borrow from china) at the fire to put them out. The area where I live burned last year. Now all that timber will be wasted as it was never harvested for lumber and will eventually become dead fall and becomes useless debris that is in the way of any person or animal using the land. Almost no trees will exist after the fire and what was once lush forest habitat will be lost forever. There is a reason that logging companies manage property in a different way to prevent the resource being wasted as well as replanting the trees they harvest not to mention all the time and money that is wasted fighting fires in overgrown hot burning forest fires that risk peoples lives unnecessarily. Sorry about the rant but it seem like the same thing happens year after year and we don't learn from our mistakes.
While I don't disagree with the general theme of your post, the idea that these forests will be lost forever is wrong and shortsighted. Many of these forests will be BETTER because of the fire.
 
While I don't disagree with the general theme of your post, the idea that these forests will be lost forever is wrong and shortsighted. Many of these forests will be BETTER because of the fire.

Could be true in some cases but not always. The ones around here that burned about 10 years ago burned so hot that the trees never came back. Now it is just open grassy hills with old deadfall instead of forest. There are other places that burned last year which still look like the moon because the fire was so hot not even grass will grow even with a fairly wet year that we have had. Now it is a huge erosion problem with the USFS having to spend lots of money to do repairs to fix roads and drainage problems. I don't see trees coming back in my lifetime unless they are replanted which is unlikely. That is why timber companies seem to do better IMO because they replant when they cut. They are able to allow the forest to cycle through various stages and still make money instead of just letting the valuable timber burn and wasting money fighting fires.

To the OP sorry to derail your thread. Those really are some great pics. I hope the trees come back in the next few years.
 
Those are some amazing pics. Is that the fire that say was started by a hunter? If it is I wouldn't want to be in his boots. It makes a person wonder how much wildlife is lost in such a large fire. Thanks for sharing
 
I should probably know where this is, but I don't. Colorado? Arizona? Either way, those are some amazing pictures of amazing devastation. Wow.
 
Those are some amazing pics. Is that the fire that say was started by a hunter? If it is I wouldn't want to be in his boots. It makes a person wonder how much wildlife is lost in such a large fire. Thanks for sharing
No, the fire allegedly started by the hunter was in Yosemite Park, California.
 
Could be true in some cases but not always. The ones around here that burned about 10 years ago burned so hot that the trees never came back. Now it is just open grassy hills with old deadfall instead of forest. There are other places that burned last year which still look like the moon because the fire was so hot not even grass will grow even with a fairly wet year that we have had. Now it is a huge erosion problem with the USFS having to spend lots of money to do repairs to fix roads and drainage problems. I don't see trees coming back in my lifetime unless they are replanted which is unlikely. That is why timber companies seem to do better IMO because they replant when they cut. They are able to allow the forest to cycle through various stages and still make money instead of just letting the valuable timber burn and wasting money fighting fires.

To the OP sorry to derail your thread. Those really are some great pics. I hope the trees come back in the next few years.
FWIW, 10 years or even the rest of your lifetime are a small blip in the successional time scale of most vegetational communities. Many tree dominated systems have return intervals measured in centuries...

Again I don't disagree with your statements on forest management, but fire is, more often than not, far from 'devestating' regardless of what the news reports.
 
it is amazing how the animals come back to check out a burn. We have seen the elk, deer, and turkeys come back to our controlled burns immediately to check them out. The turkeys probably like all the cooked bugs and seeds, but I don't know what the allure is for the big guys.
 

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