Seriously - Thank You rich boys for this new Idaho law.

They should have made it 10 years.

This was getting very abused. One Elk Shaped youtube "celebrity" recently moved to Idaho, stayed a year, bought a lifetime license and then moved back to Washington. I know of more than a few contractors who moved in for a year or two, bought the lifetime license and then moved on to the next job in another state. They never had the intent of staying permanently, they always knew they were here for just a year or two.
 
I was about to do it, this summer/fall. I don't disagree that it needed fixed, probably best for Idaho residents to fix that loophole.
 
Hopefully someone from the Idaho fish and game does their due diligence and checks every suspicious lifetime license holder to see if they are obtaining resident permits in other states. I believe that would be a Lacey Act violation to claim residency in multiple states for the purpose of purchasing hunting and fishing licenses.
 
I love this. 5 years seems about right.

We don't have lifetime licenses in SD, but I'd love to see some kind of option available, even if it'd be just fishing. I couldn't see SD going to lifetime small game, as those licenses alone probably fuel a huge portion of the depts sales during upland season.
I wish I'd have purchased a MN lifetime fishing license when I was still a resident.
 
Gellar said:
Hopefully someone from the Idaho fish and game does their due diligence and checks every suspicious lifetime license holder to see if they are obtaining resident permits in other states. I believe that would be a Lacey Act violation to claim residency in multiple states for the purpose of purchasing hunting and fishing licenses.
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Especially if the person claiming to be a resident is registered to vote in another state or applies for a homestead exemption in another state. It seems that it could be easy to verify. Double or triple the penalty for falsifying your residency when applying for the license or even lose hunting privileges for 10 years for the cheaters.
 
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idelkslayer said:
They should have made it 10 years.

This was getting very abused. One Elk Shaped youtube "celebrity" recently moved to Idaho, stayed a year, bought a lifetime license and then moved back to Washington. I know of more than a few contractors who moved in for a year or two, bought the lifetime license and then moved on to the next job in another state. They never had the intent of staying permanently, they always knew they were here for just a year or two.
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I was hoping he hadn't moved back yet and this new law bit him in the butt.
 
They should pass another law to boot out all the NR influencers who bought in. Maybe we could get a roster of the purchasers through FOIA?

On a related note, the popularity of western big game hunting is and has been spawning a rolling list of ways to creatively game the system to nab a tag.
 
Gellar said:
Hopefully someone from the Idaho fish and game does their due diligence and checks every suspicious lifetime license holder to see if they are obtaining resident permits in other states. I believe that would be a Lacey Act violation to claim residency in multiple states for the purpose of purchasing hunting and fishing licenses.
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The Idaho lifetime residency license doesn’t require Idaho residency to use it if you leave the state after you purchase it. Holders of the lifetime license not living in the state are in the resident pool for tag drawings but pay NR tag prices if drawn.
 
Gellar said:
Hopefully someone from the Idaho fish and game does their due diligence and checks every suspicious lifetime license holder to see if they are obtaining resident permits in other states. I believe that would be a Lacey Act violation to claim residency in multiple states for the purpose of purchasing hunting and fishing licenses.
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Some state specifically say the license is still good if you move away. Some do not allow you to apply as a resident if you hold a lifetime license in an other state.
 
Arizona allows a former resident already holding a Lifetime AZ hunting license to apply in the AZ Resident tag pool in the draw. You pay non-resident fees and tag costs. You are not claiming to still be a resident of AZ. So, not a Lacey violation.

In fact, I moved to Arizona from another state and the timing of the move was such that during the application season...I was a non-resident in all 50 states.
 
idelkslayer said:
They should have made it 10 years.

This was getting very abused. One Elk Shaped youtube "celebrity" recently moved to Idaho, stayed a year, bought a lifetime license and then moved back to Washington. I know of more than a few contractors who moved in for a year or two, bought the lifetime license and then moved on to the next job in another state. They never had the intent of staying permanently, they always knew they were here for just a year or two.
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Careful he’s sensitive to the criticism and already had to make multiple posts defending himself
 
Gellar said:
Hopefully someone from the Idaho fish and game does their due diligence and checks every suspicious lifetime license holder to see if they are obtaining resident permits in other states. I believe that would be a Lacey Act violation to claim residency in multiple states for the purpose of purchasing hunting and fishing licenses.
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I do not know how they are vetted.I believe IDFG normally asks the same questions DMV does. They want to see rent checks, power bill, etc. I know there have been violators convicted.

I like closing this door of temptation in front of violators instead of the time and labor to catch them later.

I am not sure the line in the article regarding resident drawing privileges is factually correct after the 100% draw change last year. When NR tags were first come first served, it guaranteed you a NR tag above the quotas. Now you still have to draw that tag, but you are exempt from the 10% NR cap. It does not get you resident tags for life. It does save you the cost of an annual NR license.

There is some lawyer speak in the regs about this. IDFG is notorious for their pamphlet not being written in plainly understandable English. I've lived here 30+ years and I still have to ask my CO to interpret rules for me.

@noharleyyet - Not sure what you are asking? The scammers would NOT be infusing into Idaho the cost of their annual NR license. They WOULD be infusing the cost of the NR tag. Plus all that secondary cash flow the outfitters claim is theirs by right. Gas, lodging, Little Debbies, and the like.

To be clear - The practice they are wanting to curtail is a hunter/fisherman renting a rabbit hole for six months to get the lifetime, and then bailing. If you guided a season and then crashed with a buddy for a couple months, you could theoretically claim your six months. My moose guide was from Nevada but guided in Idaho from the start of spring bear baiting to the end of late deer/elk in November.


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44hunter45 said:
I am not sure the line in the article regarding resident drawing privileges is factually correct after the 100% draw change last year. When NR tags were first come first served, it guaranteed you a NR tag above the quotas. Now you still have to draw that tag, but you are exempt from the 10% NR cap. It does not get you resident tags for life. It does save you the cost of an annual NR license.
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The bolded sentence is incorrect, AI steered you wrong on that one. Lifetime license holders do get their tags from the resident pool, they just have to pay the NR price. Lifetime license holders are also treated as residents in the controlled hunt drawings.

The Q/A below is from this link:https://idfg.idaho.gov/licenses/tag/quotas/nonresident

Q. Do former Idaho residents with a lifetime license need to participate in the draw?

Former Idaho residents with a lifetime license will not need to participate in the draw. Those hunters are eligible to purchase general season tags out of the resident quota, which will be available in late June/early July.
 
AI hallucination is real.

I bought my sons Lifetime licenses when they graduated high school. My idea was to make sure I could hunt with them if they left the state in the future, no gaming of the draw system. Both are still Idaho residents.
 
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